X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=ig9cV+qexJRgp58O Znj9nIJZTgL2dadQ8Mh9pbZf8uDujhM8Ge7KSANh++1zRzhdPjiEM/2qN0yd1ta2 Y2LOTbbrNWVtfi/TV3/rxVo89mLYcekPX1cmSbQOzcPFCFy2MwMkOKCh/H32B3z/ q/BVRtk6Cu2Hg3COrCG+nEzwJCQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=iGfiOaH9TA+NHZlj5cBnCO Ki7s0=; b=KMwEv2f718M+N4W6J6e4UhlcGeWKb0KtaEOeFTX76tDBRMGlMGt9Uh MlyhSHK8raYfiBlAIR9vKIfrcZhtK4GyFzSBD2YY7DQL/9PhQ+OEDIdYU9TgiR0W d828I2dgbRFe2X05Mfp+hTy001Y90vFwhpPfJx/XDxaSV9iwlEf48= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=venture, cygwin64, awaiting, wish X-HELO: sasl.smtp.pobox.com Subject: Re: long I/O delays when strace is running To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <91DCAC3CB99C724EB365BB64677FBE7B16EBBD AT MX204CL04 DOT corp DOT emc DOT com> <46e39bce-9782-5c74-c196-35ee97ebbc64 AT pobox DOT com> <58F9D314 DOT 2000100 AT maxrnd DOT com> <7d56e728-32a3-9179-b002-e83880e297d0 AT pobox DOT com> <58FA83DB DOT 3000209 AT maxrnd DOT com> From: Daniel Santos Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:25:52 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58FA83DB.3000209@maxrnd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 154BD0E8-2780-11E7-A38E-C260AE2156B6-06139138!pb-smtp2.pobox.com X-IsSubscribed: yes On 04/21/2017 05:12 PM, Mark Geisert wrote: > > Re debugging strace itself, you may not realize that strace is not a > Cygwin-native program. It's a Windows-native program. So debugging > it with Cygwin gdb is problematic. > > I can tell you roughly how strace operates. It launches the target > program with CreateProcess(), not with exec(). It acts as the > debugger of the target in order to receive Windows DEBUG_EVENTs for > things like DLL loads, thread creation, etc. etc. The Cygwin DLL in > the target can tell when it's being run under strace and generates > trace lines with OutputDebugString() calls that strace receives as > DEBUG_EVENTs. strace then just outputs the trace line. > > strace does have to explicitly ContinueDebugEvent() on each > DEBUG_EVENT it receives, and if there's some issue with that then the > target program will remain suspended awaiting that continue. I've > never seen an issue with this but it's another possible place to look, > I suppose. > > Why strace appears to interact badly with /proc accesses, I have no idea. > > ..mark Well thank you, I wish I had read this earlier. I've been trying to debug (with gdb) strace (following children) and now I know why the debugger is blowing through breakpoints, because I may be debugging strace, but strace debugging it's own child. I added a _pinfo::dump () member function that I'm calling from pinfo::init () after the test "if (!created && !(flag & PID_NEW))" and it's crashing because for some processes, the entire _pinfo struct isn't mapped in, just the first page. Of course, I'm a newbie in this sphere, so maybe I've missed something and there's sometimes a reason for this? (The first part of the struct looks normal.) Otherwise, that would be another odd flaw. Anyway, I can see that the strace process's shared _pinfo object is never fully populated: _pinfo 0x30000 { pid 2800, process_state 0x00000001, ppid 0, exitcode 0 cygstarted 0, dwProcessId 0x00000AF0, progname "D:\cygwin64\bin\strace.exe", uid 0, gid 0, pgid 0, sid 0, ctty 0, has_pgid_children 0 start_time 1492881370, nice 0, stopsig 0, sendsig 0x0, exec_sendsig 0x0, exec_dwProcessId 0 } So I would venture to say that is a problem. Also, pinfo::init() should probably issure some error message if it waits 2-ish seconds and the struct still isn't correctly populated. Is there a way to debug the children of strace? It would make it a lot easier. That's part of why I wrote the _pinfo::debug(), but also when I debug strace with gdb, the _pinfo struct IS properly populated. The best problems are the ones that disappear when you try to debug them. Thanks, Daniel -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple