X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=wStRSPCng35irfw9XpyGMuRkB2yRYPYvf3OLnlS8c6b x7XQS1J0Zt+CzA/vY4G0QKOe6hjxVmmF8/rblvrM0bwE6MJLpbG5E62wpR5ubjAk 8SImdqNwlBRph2boNOnz7WlpJHxiPf5640QDsc6dcdP/hJyrI4xHLIxfyBfm/LV8 = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=OR3Xrbzm4+vhKH6fJgqSdmMQqNs=; b=JnG5vR3toxlilQ9Xy ozDQpkvft762FzDHHbqlzeB+6C4YNUK2U9NkVDXJ7imCGAzVHsFMjotrYo9MQpZI ANqEb86iQkAYFbvfUHvTokxMO9+cQ/bSGM5LmwjRo9nOSFsbNPsAX6m5FN511Ppp h+9Muam5PIVzf/SHHbRlpDkfKY= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=products X-HELO: Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org Message-ID: <58C5AB99.6070906@tlinx.org> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 13:12:09 -0700 From: L A Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Junctions != Symlinks; Treat Junctions as MS-FS mounts; MS-symlinks are symlinks References: <58C31431 DOT 1020408 AT tlinx DOT org> <5110401945 DOT 20170311210154 AT yandex DOT ru> <58C48EF9 DOT 4050106 AT tlinx DOT org> <20170312111518 DOT GD3340 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20170312111518.GD3340@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Mar 11 15:57, L A Walsh wrote: > >> I'm, talking parallel features and parallel problems. >> Installing products on Linux or cygwin may check for and >> complain about symlinks leading to their installation directory. >> >> The cure in both is to use bind-type mounts and >> remove any symlink usage in their base path. >> > > As I wrote (multiple times now?), we can handle dir junctions as > symlinks or as normal directories. We can not handle them as mounts or > bind mounts, unless you do this explicaitly in /etc/fstab or > /etc/fstab.d/$USER > To a user program, a mountvol looks like a normal directory. When I talk about a 'bind' mount, I refer to the linux-facility for mounting an arbitrary directory on a volume on another directory on linux. On windows, one uses JUNCTIONs to achive a similar effect. In both cases, they look like normal directories. That said, why not make treating it as a normal directory dependent on "winsoftlinks:mount" in the 'CYGWIN' var, with 'winsoftlinks:symlink being the default (doesn't have to be present in CYGWIN var to get current behavior). Note, I'm using 'softlink' as MS uses when talking about JUNCTIONS -- with the new Vista feature being SYMLINKs. Thinking about it, when one wants to do backups, the env-"switch" gives the option of which behavior one gets (if that's possible/not too hard) -- either the 'normal dir' look or the current, symlink look. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple