X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=Qe7yvt4tUsqkame/ PspDbOaZTONvdNZ3eepy9MVSrh1yUaULQIO9mcwpTCmRmnRpruMvZ59AD3iqIBiU 4oRI4aTq0MYjwSD5drgXbOK6wD7AlM8vUlAtSECt5Wb0T1XbL/e6EOPb8ktcmY0G z40qgdQk5EBRTKfoBYFbvNiWKo8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=yBL4fD6hTQMkhMeMdK4cEN XQknk=; b=KSuOsUkmsKQQeBEy/MOC+Br4Z7aMEaxAAL+Stq3RCvPUdWevaQ9i3e RhacL3i1w9IkPvl/8ySVvWFPgKTccJ5S0YkehoBtCAGayxZ1hdALxOErmtsBGnr8 7xOQ1pxQ7Kp/yggSlFtDQgJG6PVNy7JsrRqF63eGLMgpcFymTPrh4= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-103.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*M:cygwin, H*Ad:U*reply-to-list-only-lh, his, serious X-HELO: pool-173-76-164-160.bstnma.fios.verizon.net Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: dash-0.5.9.1-1 References: <1835159156 DOT 20170223203808 AT yandex DOT ru> <58af3c19 DOT 01309d0a DOT 781cc DOT afce AT mx DOT google DOT com> <1225366877 DOT 20170224005008 AT yandex DOT ru> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Message-ID: <58AFA559.6010404@cygwin.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:15:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/23/2017 06:01 PM, Tony Kelman wrote: >> The big question remains, where this speed boost coming from? >> Is this a startup time? Or some internal slowness? >> Because in latter case, given your STC, this is a bash issue and should be >> reported upstream. > > Dunno what you meant by STC, but upstream is well aware: > > $ man bash | tail -n 21 | head -n 2 > BUGS > It's too big and too slow. Forgive me but this entire thread has been giving me a serious case of deja-vu. We've been down a similar path to this before, the last time around with "ash" rather than "dash" but the arguments sound very familiar. Brian Dessent has a nice summary a paragraph into his response below: https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-03/msg00369.html Now this was "ash" and not "dash" and the actual transition from "bash" to "ash" and back again occurred well over 10 years ago, so allot of things have changed for sure. But I bring this up because I think the parallels are there. Since making a change of this magnitude is going to be an undertaking, we should be sure we're going to see the intended benefits before enduring the pain such a change would bring, though hopefully that pain would be short-lived and/or minor. :-) -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple