X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=OTA31 f7oWjYZt9p6ZQQLZigvvPSuIDq9+EUnMVjlN6myFxY7+r3HlOpQ08v0+8lpWiq25 ty+RPl5ib1wqFYPL5ePeZYp3unB2QVvh9cNoIpb/6No7GflHt800IjkKUt77ffr2 4EfNcTNa4qB02yG5LhC1RJQqo1aNF2A2AnG4lU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; s=default; bh=KMfLSQ9n53s 8uR/PkvolJ+97E8c=; b=wPr1xnmU7TFgrsRcd6glx5cS/wFWwaTaQl29EG9MZmB 78a2Vkb+IYlk2UMDc7GAv4DgZzyt6jLv/hB7Gwmd6P9O+zDnepKcxdLPitqKSl79 JWj1hu8XMA6BeUGPg7J8BoNB0WO1pfPORh138UzSj24EDZY75mTC7r5gkOp2vEM8 = Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,SPF_PASS,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*MI:sk:000801d, ErikSoderquistgmailcom, soderquist, sk:eriksod X-HELO: ripple.fruitbat.org Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Peter A. Castro" To: Erik Soderquist cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Complaining after fair notice of dropping XP support. Was: Not very nice at all. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <000801d23b23$8912a3c0$9b37eb40$@bonhard.uklinux.net> <166a2465-cffb-3b15-30be-d696be8ead8e AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-IsSubscribed: yes On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Erik Soderquist wrote: > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:16:53 -0500 > From: Erik Soderquist > To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > Subject: Re: Complaining after fair notice of dropping XP support. Was: Not > very nice at all. Greetings, Erik, > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Peter A. Castro wrote: >> And for those who think keeping a private mirror is trivial, let me give you >> some stats. A full snapshot of Cygwin, 32-bit + 64-bit (+noarch) + source >> packages (Current and Previous) is about 137Gb. Don't believe me? Your >> setup.ini has a size (and a hash) for every package. Add them up yourself. >> Now consider that I have about 4000 snapshots (and counting!) of Cygwin. >> Oh! Quick quiz: >> What's 137Gb * 4000? >> Answer: 535Tb. >> Now, do you really think I have that amount of storage? Of course not. The >> Time Machine isn't organized like that (don't be silly). It's currently >> about 500Gb (which is quite a savings, if you think about it :-) > > I would dearly love to know more about how you did this specific piece... A good magician never reveals how the trick works. 8^) Sadly I'm not a good magician. It's not all that complicated, if you think about it. Each time a new setup.ini is generated only a hand full of packages was actually updated, so really, day-to-day, there's not all that much change. I keep a delta database and each time I grab a new setup.ini I compare all of the packages listed to my existing database. Anything new, I pull down and add to the archive. Anything already present I don't re-pull. Think of it as de-duplication on a package level (though I do this for more than just setup.ini, but that's a separate trick). It's only if you decide you want a complete copy of all packages for any given circa that the amount of data instantiating is alot. Then, from the setup.ini, I create a new circa directory and, really, the smoke-and-mirrors of the trick is that it's all symlinks to the real package storage, of which I have exactly one copy. Hence, 500Gb instead of 535Tb. So, um, "Ta-da"! :-) Oh, this is all automated, btw. I hardly touch it except to clean out old logs and do backups from time to time. Sorry, it wasn't all that good a trick, was it. > -- Erik -- --=> Peter A. Castro Email: doctor at fruitbat dot org / Peter dot Castro at oracle dot com "Cats are just autistic Dogs" -- Dr. Tony Attwood -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple