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<22468 DOT 35759 DOT 296399 DOT 313474 AT gargle DOT gargle DOT HOWL> <963747c6-a86b-fa30-1a03-b3a033c4588c AT gmail DOT com> <22472 DOT 25298 DOT 916008 DOT 274837 AT gargle DOT gargle DOT HOWL> <22472 DOT 28926 DOT 623106 DOT 55639 AT gargle DOT gargle DOT HOWL> To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:58:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <22472.28926.623106.55639@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOMHY45/WHn+bdSl73m+J5wbNYUdSMV0itqDukq2yYNRgsd/8umWc+P+4P1NEbTeHBPCqzJcZGThpQWjhTZRtNKC+cCQ/FKj/BUKguIvy+BiSczbEaVi EZn5XDrFmdoOpHsPeJQTbuLgnIMFO4p5n5HG05TADCQxtCoI7E/n0upnvmoOhVePCBW9lGZ4o6qVrQ== X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2016-09-01 12:18, bzs AT TheWorld DOT com wrote: > On September 1, 2016 at 13:52 ErikSoderquist AT gmail DOT com (Erik Soderquist) wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:18 PM, wrote: >>> I've no idea what it does except in the most general terms but one of >>> my banks won't let me log in unless it's running so this has been >>> quite a nuisance as I have to stop it w/ their management interface >>> and then use task manager to kill their management interface which is >>> what seems to be the problem, etc., each time I need a bank balance. >>> And sometimes that stop or restart doesn't go right -- IE almost >>> always crashes* when it's restarted, etc. Doesn't sound like much but >>> 20 minutes of your life going down the tubes on something that should >>> take 2 minutes (check a balance) gets old, fast. >>> * Some of my vendors only work right on IE, otherwise never use it so >>> everyone please save the advice :-) >> For me that would be a case of notifying them of said problems and >> that due to said problems (I include not being able to log in from my >> tails live CD boot a problem) I will be finding a new vendor, and then >> do so and close my accounts with the vendor with failing software. I >> have had some of these vendors come back to me later with "We've fixed >> X, please come back". > All fine advice. > I have spoken to the bank involved numerous times but never got past a > very chipper, helpful person who is ready to show me how to start/stop > the software, listens to my problem (slowness) politely and then goes > back into their technical support dance. And is so many paygrades > below taking a general complaint it just sounds like I'm out to foul > their air. Frankly they probably suspect I don't know what I'm talking > about (probably not their software, what is "cygwin"? we can't be > responsible for your third-party apps speak to them if that's what > you're having problems with, etc.) > Also, the accts affected so far are business accts with various other > relationships so it's not quite as easy as walking down the block and > opening another acct w/ another bank tho it's not impossible and I am > looking into it, just spoke w/ another bank about taking it all over. > But, if one can, I do recommend if your bank starts requiring this > Rapport software change banks. > Maybe some day they'll fix it but until then it's just a headache. > And other than "IBM sold it to them" one never gets a straight answer > on why they even require this software. Again, that decision is too > many paygrades up for them to speculate about beyond "it improves > security". If you have a security issue, ask to speak to their security group: banks, telcos, utilities, they all have folks who can address and escalate these issues, with your documentation of interaction with the vendor, and maybe get a fixed release for you, giventhe business and performance impact, and the other bank being considered ;^> Technical reviews of the package concur that it is just another malware blocker, but more intrusive than some others: check the BLODA list for the other intrusive packages, a number of which I have used and deinstalled because of (not just Cygwin) failures and severe performance impacts in general. P.S. Trusteer Rapport Cerberus is not yet on the BLODA list [hint] [FAQ 4.45 What applications have been found to interfere with Cygwin? https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.using.bloda] -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple