X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; q=dns; s=default; b=ync xnEoP1VxAjMVKMhSjIM9M2IiSgvwyPl1/rzPursmLrDY5h9cKVsWE6SD1waQNo6U 6gvjhqIAzGP31vrV1ngma1Ss42Nd+o2FMxrSFbkeKIOYSBAQPThMgvtulGcSstK8 OjeOc6QDALhmStW7HWYScVherKjdHoqv+j8nXNnM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; s=default; bh=TLbnqtB1W dZb9OoBykl+I6yYPIU=; b=Pa5boGFTfWuZ5adn2332YRZT1HYRAx5lIEOdTRVA4 NiVWaO3r4SvjwS3t3TJZcwPmt/tEoPKV4N2jup//AYA7xyZ79NjW8siTziwIHXI1 xtr0ua+nNzswi2nAWjXcvZ2rMHB7qorqYwQJGqw9jXRWRmTuz/Q76vbSwmkldVXL M8= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_60,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,KAM_STOCKGEN autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=Region, Panel, HContent-Language:de-DE, H*r:169.254.2 X-HELO: thoth.sbs.de From: "Schwarz, Konrad" To: "cygwin AT cygwin DOT com" Subject: RE: Different representations of time in ls -l and date(1) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:23:37 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u7VFO0Nk029774 > -----Original Message----- > > > So my problem is that date(1) outputs AM/PM style dates, whereas ls > > > - > > l > > > uses 24 hour times. > > > > > > $ ls -l rtos_benchmark.lst > > > -rwxr-xr-x+ 1 mchn1350 Domain Users 263 Aug 31 13:14 > > > rtos_benchmark.lst* > > > $ date > > > Wed, Aug 31, 2016 1:39:35 PM > > > $ echo $LC_TIME > > > > > > $ echo $LANG > > > en_US.UTF-8 > > > > > > Shouldn't they be using the same format? > > > > Further experimentation shows that they do indeed use the same format > > in the POSIX locale, (LANG=C), as required by that standard. > > > > However, I still think it is an ugly inconsistency for them to differ > > in the en_US.UTF-8 locale (which I assume is the default locale in > > Cygwin). > > Still further investigation shows that on SUSE Linux, with > LANG=en_US.UTF-8, both of these utilities consistently, if counter- > intuitively, display 24 hour time. > > So I think the problem lies in Cygwin's locale database. [Cygwin's locale database is Windows' locale database] On my Windows 7 machine, Control Panel, Region and Language, Formats shows Short time: h:mm tt Long time: h:mm:ss tt AM Symbol: AM PM Symbol: PM This is the standard English (United States) setting. 24 hour format is represented in Windows by either H:mm or HH:mm. Shouldn't ls -l therefore be using a 12 hour format? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple