X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=dVP yNGtZffIDIQ01Cj5PbIBCecIsYRSrYIIya07kUOVyDwa9GDMSbQ8oidTTSxjkTaa yA8t4UYH6FirtBbH8W8tKihgekiXjZ3wfgCd6M5TMQJ9b5bcSiYh++cj3g2Q9FE1 Og8HbpHyGIBle6fM9aIwEw3Nmca7mYaQnIt6vLZI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:to:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=hRdqnqsD/ CV809TK3PpVbIARibo=; b=jYg6xB39lC4fBRDjHERH5kPAG2czq5Ho0iHISaPtD gd/0ULbx7NiOakzu/UU4hOE3/l0ih8ihCFy4Y50dl856h3aI6+CzdGYIu7ZwHML3 jNFXeAX8XqpvQsbJiqBz+yug1q2Ao2A36v0kfXoD3zxvDkRyyrIzjARqQy3pj1gO Qg= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=reveal, starters, formatted, correcting X-HELO: mail-yw0-f173.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KjhaEk3wRGrXhkuxsF7k429KjW8baaUkUSnJvrSfRuo=; b=S3O+VhQpI9mcjXjylowrGBQfHMNoz/bB4AUiAfhoKuudws8YRlEZIk2vvfBVK2t3Iz PX+mSWBrnxZOjY19BeMbqxe2Kck5QrfchWPkGhqpMBHj5BJmH/afHqqsWJzY4YPZumjo RxIJ+vvnKRCwVoG3SRo8yco0iQckpPHXSWvRDYpSo+ozfwBurcK7wqavNE/ZXz0FDKuY y8K7oJsOdGoJ/m/W4QlEZyly1F4XvWHKb7x0x9wLf/bBO8lM6BdCSYO2Wa3lCyLUB6aA WIZc1SdcgqrXx+5RTmzTGetnd7yuS+1of5OpDBizOAYTch9NCLVB/zLEg76yOV7JBSb1 d+4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvxqQmmCRvO3pZLes9slszjIySdwGkZbny6DxGqBudmaw6rl2yFby9AQcZGO8fd1A== X-Received: by 10.129.56.6 with SMTP id f6mr12565789ywa.277.1471055195145; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:26:35 -0700 (PDT) To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Thomas Taylor Subject: What would it take to get Cygwin and NTFS file permissions to play nice? Message-ID: <5703de0b-e931-8120-ebdd-72da52c49879@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 22:26:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes I use rsync to back up my Cygwin user directories to an external USB disk drive, formatted as NTFS. This fails from time to time, usually due to permission failures when trying to update the destination files. The Windows permissions of the destination files turn out to be in the wrong order, and to contain extraneous entries. Further checking of other files on the destination drive reveal the same problem with their Windows permissions. Rather that try to correct the Windows permissions of each file in turn, I go as far up the directory tree as needed, and recursively reset all Windows file permissions all the way down. When I then rsync the USB drive back to my user directories, the UNIX permissions of every file are now set to executable. This has the unfortunate effect of granting execute permission on every file restored, even those that are not executable. I gave up on correcting the permissions of the restored files (via a long-running recursive script), and learned to live with the problem. Until now, that is. I thought I'd try "ls --color", and was disappointed to find that almost everything (except directories and symbolic links) came out light green. This happened because almost everything was marked as executable, and this happened because rsync mangled the Windows permissions, which are most easily reset to be the same on all files in a given directory and all subdirectories. These Windows permissions inevitably involve "Full Control" (including execute permission) for somebody, especially the owner. Yeah, I've read the Cygwin doc on this, and I get the feeling that solving it is too difficult/impossible/not worth the effort. For starters, could we at least set the Windows permissions in proper order? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple