X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=ceT9XGU kDS1pP517++9q3eNSlWmYQAZLzX1ar8h3Mh4t/BqTF3i+xZU4orXGPAkn1VfNyxT /TIFJCZk4sM4Ms/WJe1twqU6Gj19AGK1TO9Ksz370XUXzdff9pqz2rAbY4QzFiH1 M8dlJypU/rqfZIsPPCW4g7pzH+6kgb17Wyqg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=default; bh=lpzeb8P64l8KD VLY4SUEtRmrHc0=; b=HmbUs81ihShynRQRJiabZnM2BYDAqp96zsvBPh7wQunr1 AmqdgOfWYGMPoCCKsVENA9KRFV0lykekaBvr3Mwg0hw6iyjleSvhXll4hM8mAlGR apGX3Y538nLeuilUmIYjMNmnGjhd6Bslhn+rSCmUXKSwEu9JFeEJGIOPxaJjNw= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM,FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL,HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM,HK_RANDOM_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=sudden, calgary, Calgary, Alberta X-HELO: mail-qk0-f176.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/VkxTqSfELrtoioitYrFrpSuBBKiJiY6RiZr3LiKk0I=; b=MAx7clKcdoU3lCmo5JGQP7J/xkVtTuUaFhHm3UPVOi7NlgNqwqoCHhzRjCG8DQ5f/r 5RES/4g2Auw8WxQfi+5fkbvlnRfe8dElfwfjER5Qi+NvGUccLurJD5BXAAUx/OIyLG4G NhrJpfsT0vU9aoeJowLpgb9EpRyli+GkUtIXPJ6DjwwRkF9ARpslfDIgYhEMkGYNJmZH 67IHz7+QOdfnuw0Gae0GsIqn9DopMOP6gzmDzSgbNHtE6v8I04DaBWXIzxybN3IoFm4a zmsnBqZ3nxl8WyzfJPmaoaAU8gAS0ZasGoy1HOtCqJOrjkDRfQUP1lW6xBnOBL8zJn1e /qhw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLm4U0ycCq/QogsvmtTb7kTx1CWjkRDktSh1I6/b/r2PiMq4cAtKJNbvQrxKk0xK+26C4xZWfGMyTVN6Q== X-Received: by 10.55.198.208 with SMTP id s77mr29266564qkl.61.1468281236320; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:53:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Doug Henderson Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:53:36 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: obsolete package libpopt0 dependencies To: cygwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes On 11 July 2016 at 14:56, Mark Geisert wrote: > Mark Geisert writes: >> Doug Henderson writes: >> > To the maintainer of cygutils and cygutils-extra,. >> > >> > Please rebuild these packages to not use the obsolete package > libpopt0. >> > >> > I found two other packages, libbonoboui2_0 and libgnome2_0 which also >> > depended on libpopt0, but I was able to uninstall them with no >> > difficult. >> >> Sorry for the inconvenience. I'll look into this shortly. > > Not trying to avoid work :) but I hadn't heard that Cygwin's obsolete > package conventions could cause a problem for users. What issue does it > cause for you? Does it make packages hard to uninstall? Does it pull in > other unwanted packages? Any description of the undesirable behavior > would help me understand. > Thanks, > > ..mark Mark, Out of curiosity, I checked for obsolete packages after seeing a recent post which suggested to remove obsolete packages while trying to diagnose and solve unusual problems. I think it was something to do with cygwin installs failing after Win10 upgrades. One obsolete package uninstalled with no complaint, but setup reported that libpopt0 was used by the 4 packages I mentioned above. I would presume that obsolete packages will not be maintained, and at some point may cease to function properly, resulting in the sudden failure of non-obsolete packages that depend on them. With that in mind, I would suggest that dependence on an obsolete package is an important trigger for preparing a new release for a package. TIA, Doug -- Doug Henderson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple