X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=d4oMq9NdQB0X7sfp GZ5HMJL2RmUwKzeD0Vk8OFydu5K1NQU3lAWU7jLgdy17Z+ZfhWfp494IDy2v9Inz gPsslf0CCZxo086+Wr+wpegVvLzDqbBPFukHUfi3Tb6JW8E2YjgSeN+eBdICTMgE OtUU2/reYuY1403AqP81tnA4JMM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=vg9DHk2GbWe+AXWg3Drg/b nj4Nk=; b=Yx1bmaAzj6QcZMYgBJ2ojSy6h5qDPxbil5FhANUA+3zYg58lF8gOUa wpa6wahjWkV7f+tCsIHpt3vxpAmviooTX7mG18fSoDqGQ8hqoolxp1aaGlcL5teI AdfUUyo74W6NFAuHBD9vzDjP4mn3AuvoKNexBQGBzfZXLbBoAIeKY= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,MIME_BASE64_BLANKS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=H*UA:Bat!, H*x:Bat!, H*UA:Home, H*x:Home X-HELO: forward3o.cmail.yandex.net Authentication-Results: smtp4o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:23:24 +0300 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <1945820393.20160627122324@yandex.ru> To: Bill Zissimopoulos , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: POSIX permission mapping and NULL SIDs In-Reply-To: References: <20160624195144 DOT GB27089 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20160624215948 DOT GD27089 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id u5R9Zdt3024488 Greetings, Bill Zissimopoulos! >>> The main reason that I am weary of using an unused SID is that Microsoft >>> may decide to assign some special powers to it in a future release (e.g. >>> GodMode SID). But I agree that this is rather unlikely in the S-1-0-X >>> namespace. >> >>I think it's very unlikely. We could chose any RID value we like and >>the chance for collision is nil. When I created the new implementation >>for POSIX ACLs, I toyed around with this already and used a special >>Cygwin SID within the NULL SID AUTHORITY. I'm not entirely sure why I >>changed this to the NULL SID deny ACE. I think I disliked the fact that >>almost every Cygwin ACL would contain a mysterious "unknown SID". > Ideally we should choose a SID that: > (1) Is very unlikely to be used by Microsoft at any point in the future. > (2) Cannot be associated to a user logon for any reason (see problem with > Anonymous SID) above. > (3) Maps to a reasonable UID in Cygwin. > I propose the following SID/UID mapping: > S-1-0-99 <=> UID 0xffffffff (32-bit -1) Why not S-1-0-65535 ? It'll map to 0x1FFFF then without any special rules. > This is a SID in the S-1-0 (Null Authority) namespace (same one that > contains the NULL SID), which is unlikely to be used by Microsoft. So it > likely satisfies (1). > For the same reason (that it is a new/unused SID in the S-1-0) namespace, > I think it also satisfies (2). > If we follow the rules from Cygwin’s "POSIX accounts, permission, and > security” document [IDMAP], the SID S-1-0-99 maps to 0x10063. But we can > make a special rule for this SID to map it to a different UID. Mapping it > to -1 may be the easiest option, but perhaps we can also consider mapping > it to 0xfffffffe (-2). > Bill > [IDMAP] https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, June 27, 2016 12:08:13 Sorry for my terrible english...