X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=jn2LR68Y0Ntz8VOPlXcwE7SWwFQ/ oeht+WS6fie+5o+nd6yXYl3bzhYH8iaasj0B7gFCinI2vlDzqn4YfQaiWGp42A/A DA4CHMmlHM04gzmng16h4lLO3BNOJrd0OrBRkXynSZHHT8RMnU+2gPeF9Z5ZJWjB 3dU46TYmyeWSDjs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=w8n1Uwdx+2VdO4PYncO/baVlUvk=; b=eB F+QsxEFBoVkVuqiaE380rgGx0UOIC4CzRJq1qXoOAuOmnBP3a/6YvIL+qR8dFBB/ VM1IEo0+4roOtIDfMIDM/jLtSEJSnx2qpGjh4TIV2anIeZ9nNzUhREKhzb7wfBJw GXmWP4REUXraOmyBk+KaV4bRW+Sa46i9rG30IMcow= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=fifteen, sk:lloydw, D*yahoo.co.uk, U*lloyd.wood X-HELO: gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LKr1Hvm9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=x/h8IXy5FZdipniTS+KQtQ==:117 a=x/h8IXy5FZdipniTS+KQtQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CnPQkyIfcMwA:10 a=HuP01ReZ-C4A:10 a=yrkiwgmsf1kA:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=-UKeVn1vAAAA:8 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=uPZQWH_IGdm9wHBJac0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=fK1jZSgjKPFatbRoI9mg:22 a=WokSTbXykwxvpjcVos24:22 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: changes in 32-bit Cygwin OpenGL causing crashes? From: Vince Rice In-Reply-To: <1871468680.106497.1464318087251.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 22:36:42 -0500 Message-Id: <05C369EA-F8BA-42F8-A2F8-411AA29ED8A3@solidrocksystems.com> References: <538382235 DOT 210794 DOT 1464156496492 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo DOT ref AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <538382235 DOT 210794 DOT 1464156496492 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <1871468680 DOT 106497 DOT 1464318087251 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> To: "cygwin AT cygwin DOT com" X-Identified-User: {3986:box867.bluehost.com:solidrr2:solidrocksystems.com} {sentby:smtp auth 99.106.192.34 authed with vrice AT solidrocksystems DOT com} X-Exim-ID: 1b68Zp-0007j9-GS X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.86]) [99.106.192.34]:62719 X-Source-Auth: vrice AT solidrocksystems DOT com X-Email-Count: 0 X-Source-Cap: c29saWRycjI7c29saWRycjI7Ym94ODY3LmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u4R3bJUQ001326 > On May 26, 2016, at 10:01 PM, lloyd DOT wood AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk wrote: > > It's odd, the amount of extra support that Cygwin needs. > > Okay, OpenGL is broken in 32-bit cygwin, not for the first > time. > > I'm unsure if OpenGL is broken in 64-bit cygwin, because > the piping my applications use is broken in 64-bit cygwin - > and only there. Not in any other linux or unix I've run on. > So, it's rather tempting to blame 64-bit Cygwin. > > But the OpenGL code is clearly obviously different > and later in 64-bit Cygwin, because it builds to different > function names (dropped a bunch of EXTs.) That's... odd. > But in any case, we have a -noopengl flag just to work > around OpenGL segfaulting in 32-bit Cygwin (and whether > 64-bit segfaults is unknown, because piping problems.). > > And there are graphical glitches I see in 32-bit Cygwin > Tcl/Tk, but not in 64-bit Cygwin Tcl/Tk or anywhere else, > 32- or 64-bit, in Linux/Unix land. > > Those are the major things that come to mind when I think > of Cygwin. > > Notes at: > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/software/SaVi/building-under-Windows/ > > where I try and suggest to users that Cygwin is not > their best choice. Really. > > It's been over fifteen years of 'under construction' so far. First, please don't https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU. Second, https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR. Third, it’s posts like this that make me wish a former co-leader = was still around. Here are the major things that come to mind when I think of Cygwin. Gratitude. Oceans and oceans of gratitude. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple