X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=QPqw2PSIX/Sx86lN y46EIclvk5Btlt8fn4SYgoag6K3seF+PkEMJfSFEAcuX5XRbfutp2x/4XGaE1Q1E S7ZW4+tT+wJnDfn4gHsoV2DwvBtwL/kwiuVplgjYrby/urM4+hhw1VaGm4KlrJJ6 gc+oqqra54QHyXgl9LAfGUNBg+g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=uVTnHTIaj6/oAi94Kgm/fQ Acumw=; b=dWpJhnMepO2Fkpxzs19ecVxPPWwvzK5H6/bWzvqpf1MPyvbdO6gLdm k2LjePd88RshM2pN4hs/3YzyO/GXDSvTPk6kkz9VJ1Es/dr2k0u2CBSeqJQGTUnw EtqSHOzuxcMFLKMbpa76BhnO8gIx8zJeOVEpwXyd8EKkAE8mkGwuc= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=lloyd, D*yahoo.co.uk, Wood, sk:lloydw X-HELO: mail-wm0-f41.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dW9SMd/w7VOd1GUsxTumaLa4gMlsUeIGDZzPmja3KYs=; b=coDQ6b+FAD3nNENbxSRgFjb/UiJOtwnZfPaNmLazPrIEHpaqZQujArnn+qSOHIjOjO EixBzjIENfKA6lf3RsdNycXGh5h9MP1QPs1J942BxfIgsraakCKSboLw0HOLSjOl87tn C16SxWhBrr3cEbBtPZasucECORxlMS9w9aiEybi0L8XYZg8luR+Gw1w9fzpVVz/4WZJ2 FRXmy3lyHN4HbTa+bsNO/Bf4ZyUmXsT1qJT9lJu6QnBcTn0Sf3nFPz1/MkBr+uq5x2MQ DBTxDlkdjDWZG8Fd/Fm84dD+Tjx8YCLee8NkjKRLwrzOzHVvbQLG+16QCZfvSMTGgjya W+oA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKd+9K/Jk83vjCqcz0H1LnHuOUTI3ein3WHyeBAAwruoU0FegMaYAJKbzyQR1l9bQ== X-Received: by 10.194.91.194 with SMTP id cg2mr2853265wjb.47.1464168508062; Wed, 25 May 2016 02:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: changes in 32-bit Cygwin OpenGL causing crashes? To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <538382235 DOT 210794 DOT 1464156496492 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo DOT ref AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <538382235 DOT 210794 DOT 1464156496492 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:28:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 25/05/2016 08:08, lloyd DOT wood AT yahoo DOT co DOT uk wrote: >> It seems still the same problem with dri-drivers >> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2016-04/msg00283.html >> >> probably caused by LLVM 3.7 > > Unfortunately, the dri-driver versions available in the installer > depend on LLVM 3.7, so, even though reverting back to LLVM 3.5 > is offered when you select llvm, you can't pull in a dri-driver > that works with that older version of LLVM to test that hypothesis. > So, not much point to offering that older version of LLVM. > > Regardless of the fact that OpenGL is broken (again), this is > really a problem with Cygwin as a perennial work-in-progress > and its (lack of) version control. Feel free to propose a solution compatible with the lack of dedicated man power. The package per maintainer statistics can highlight the workload issue: 2406 Yaakov Selkowitz 171 Jari Aalto 142 Achim Gratz 141 Marco Atzeri 82 Ken Brown 70 Dr. Volker Zell 44 Achim Gratz/Yaakov Selkowitz 39 Achim Gratz/Ken Brown 36 Corinna Vinschen 26 Andrew Schulman 22 Jonathan Yong 22 David Rothenberger 20 Eric Blake 19 Jon Turney 17 David Stacey .... Total 3388 Of course not all the packages weight the same; Jon and Corinna have very heavy loads > I'd like to be able to download a stable-known-to-work-on > a-specified date golden-master Cygwin, without incremental > upgrades, and revert to that known-to-work Cygwin if needs > be. Once every six months? I'd be good with that. Feel free to use the Time Machine http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/#cygwintimemachine kindly provided by Peter > > Lloyd Wood > http://savi.sf.net/ > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple