X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=VqfV 8AOJ/PrxWB9QzsSTHQbZCp3Yc1tekfTMkYg/RHn+S0gYZMBVkVf4aMkmEQhfJGcA j/0FRFFHz4nPBWtemmetYqKLZPywWldaaZUAiL3/LqRN/nFskCRsPkdiJ+GPncLu RyrPG8ACgEEuZaCa8mYloBq/iFO+Stm3JqGeM70= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; s=default; bh=Z7mPbfbeCY t1UvYiACtSTuGENvM=; b=jRe3lgy+T5qPCM87GPNJK5ZlSePlJvah6XV5hurTVK NF1UomYqoOTNBWz0TPFFWFmFNYkAxM3GLxux7s40HhfjYQvIxyYPsiTOU8NMxD6F 2HFdT6hgRPYA4U6425YjSPhKsc09ygo2nKJRVFhX1STfFn5k36cIsSWSszup1W0M w= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=blake, Blake, H*i:YPUMDh56, H*f:YPUMDh56 X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_tar_incremental_backups_and_ctime=e2=80=8f_problem?= To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <9fdf98cf-e3d1-e453-1c98-2c206afe81c9 AT gmail DOT com> <09f604cd-61df-e0c7-b313-1dcf1ef59b4e AT gmail DOT com> From: Eric Blake Openpgp: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Message-ID: <574313B3.3090703@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:29:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0QVbi20PuX8rIniPA4n1ofaTtb6TtuDtr" X-IsSubscribed: yes --0QVbi20PuX8rIniPA4n1ofaTtb6TtuDtr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/23/2016 03:18 AM, x y wrote: > It is not clear to me your expectation: > - are you asking how to use ctime to select the file with tar alone ? > It is not possible for my understanding of the manual. >=20 > - Are you asking the package maintainer to change the behaviour of > cygwin tar ? Unlikely to happen, but I leave to him. >=20 > Regards > Marco >=20 >=20 > Hi Marco, >=20 > Sorry, I am new to the mailing list. If I am not wrong, tar is > checking both of the ctime and mtime values to compare files during > incremental backups. Since opening and closing a MS document without > changing the content updates ctime, it would be preferable to add a > new option to tar to use only mtime for file comparing during > incremental backups. mtime is fakeable, ctime is not. Using only mtime makes it likely that your incremental backup will miss files. I don't have any good reason to differ from upstream behavior here. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --0QVbi20PuX8rIniPA4n1ofaTtb6TtuDtr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXQxOzAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqDuoH/3WPa+4guhreWxJN+fXj0lZA ApNQhCiWkyt415dIF02mLZNi8Q/ucZh/K9EsRQeG0x6oV+DN8bYoX8XK3r6sQDzY SKE2nMM9EGUNeiqp0AtXii3keeAbtlM/WxSqF/nNXEtbOGjBcWEu4FVXuGOuwvEz lDSHZNpJondG4txw6vpRxJrLYfLZY9kPRt4iPaVt1sDXdteT1P6PkDBsCqZHi6Jp H1uD1yMFCZRh3BTp5Ulod9rKYdQueT97oCOJrxSqHq2zd8R2W6LlCYhnMfExT51y XeYKDMXYelDfpqmiblASBLluLGy5By2CJpmOlpY4qRf7dNU20mhck+fOaZeSCWw= =Fnku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0QVbi20PuX8rIniPA4n1ofaTtb6TtuDtr--