X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=qnM5v04ZoofAJz0x Wd/FJjQbK7kXYojaw7me/Xg0xsMyd+dWwM+z+NQSG4t+ejSAHKqvdGU6jGyUt6XB gjj1RXuk+I7B8z5fOdzc6nVnObFSPsPVLU4TyD3OSBnmylO59ewQxV+0DW5DcRb2 n9+rkVn+zEvEcA93S3jPfJDHng0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=PpAzb8W8JgmQW8TiggInKP tWZ5c=; b=MAjcP4sgVDIPiSft/7EOHmj7CdXcEXmRPLzBHL/KUJ/QiDDCJ9c4Y1 gKWMahb5bLOoViEFiycMYG3MLMQyXul/f5UaQQpYwnJyimEdbvFBEmhGcKKDzF8J Y7/6ZTwrZ5ovyv4ulAwBxBmHThX5sCvGmfgrtHX1NwMnfSo6kO3xI= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=schulman, Schulman, H*f:sk:70rpgbh, H*i:sk:70rpgbh X-HELO: mail-qk0-f181.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vMtCxZJ8iO7epX4JQTRcHWJjoXPdwGXFGmvh0LcrPD4=; b=gNph1lCnMNIwJMoz9KtVPe4ieGL18/+MaRhQnuzfzHr+QgUc1VLRGE3/0RGYdha7a4 cXJG3V1hSCUeTR9wR8RlA+zRvrMYrnF6VOQxniqB68ejJq63fpKFa8Kk+kgo2xbnOyya WI5XHaZc7C7OsyHNzHiMaoghGio1W5b8tVDTUTrYWQC37pBc7XmigAUWhVyT4oHkED9A ZnrC7COVsDJj0gDdxkmA7JIHhiuH9FbEpkfyo0ao6I7a2hyrFJsBqD7QL7lW7LSVrmYT cWma68JMjlxeOs8O14TnfeqHnq2HDUGg/MBr7HzOnxe9ltt0PomRtrEw324T6IV0FjWj R4SQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWqXzrl0ZY8jmD50p6G3l2jHi0W1lyZjN7GptZIZfFEF4X62zztafYqRfobDz65hw== X-Received: by 10.55.5.23 with SMTP id 23mr3282424qkf.46.1460465941318; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 05:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <70rpgbh81o3fkrdgh8ldh2hmon25ihnr1s AT 4ax DOT com> From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: <570CF112.6060405@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:58:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <70rpgbh81o3fkrdgh8ldh2hmon25ihnr1s@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 12/04/2016 14:50, Andrew Schulman wrote: > By now I guess most of us have seen the reports of bash, and in fact a full > Linux userland, running natively in Windows 10: > > http://www.osnews.com/story/29149/Microsoft_and_Canonical_partner_to_bring_Ubuntu_to_Windows_10 > http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DevelopersCanRunBashShellAndUsermodeUbuntuLinuxBinariesOnWindows10.aspx > http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html > > It's in beta release and doesn't seem to have been widely tested yet. Apparently > Microsoft has developed an API translation layer, simliar to the Cygwin DLL, to > make this work. But unlike with Cygwin, Linux apps don't have to be rebuilt - > they can run natively as-is in Windows 10. So you can get, allegedly, the full > Linux userland out-of-the-box. > > The first link cited above suggests that if this is all it claims to be, it > would remove the need for Cygwin. I can see the point. > > Has anyone had a chance to try this new feature? Does it work as well as is > claimed? > > I realize this may be strictly off-topic here, but it seems to me to be > potentially so important to the future of Cygwin that it's worth discussing here > insted of on cygwin-talk. > > Andrew Before W10 became the standard it will take some time. Considering the previous history of Microsoft with Windows Services for UNIX (SFU) , my feeling is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeo_Danaos_et_dona_ferentes If they really would like to port Unix on MS, it will be enough to provide Corinna with a simple way to implement fork.... Regards Marco -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple