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Subject: Re: [h-e-w] cygwin-64 2.3.1. bash fails when running under FSF emacs 24.5
From: Dominique de Waleffe <ddewaleffe AT gmail DOT com>
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So... started my homework... Got fresh w10 vm, put cygwin64 and both
versions of emacs 24.4 and 24.5 from fsf ftp onto it....

And trying to start bash as shell fails under both  versions!

=> I was mistaken in the origin of my instance of 24.4 (it must have
come from another source, and I do not remember which)....
     It says: GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)  of 2014-10-21 on KAEL

=> both versions from fsf ftp appear to be compiled using mingw
     GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-11 on LEG570
     GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-24 on LEG570

So the difference seems to be in the difference of mingw compilation mode.

That's as far as I got tonight. Maybe someone has knowledge to share
about the cause and what to do about this?

Regards,

D.





############################
# Dominique de Waleffe
# ddewaleffe -at- gmail -dot- com
############################


On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Dominique de Waleffe
<ddewaleffe AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> There never was any reason to do as I have so far always been able to
> run a version of Emacs compiled without cygwin without any blocking
> issue but still running cygwin tools under emacs (and that has been a
> case for a very long time!).  I have no religious opinion on this but
> I don't see why I should add a dependency that, in "principle" should
> not be needed.
>
> The previous build of Emacs on the gnu site was already build with
> mingw and afaik it works. It is just that the current combination does
> not, in my case. I have no clue as to which version of mingw is
> involved in those two emacs builds. But maybe you're onto something
> there... Do you have any suggestion as how to validate your
> hypothesis?
>
> My goal is not to complain and just have a quick work around, I'd
> rather report the issue and if possible help in resolving the issue...
> I see that my download has finished... I'll setup this vm and try what
> I can with it....
>
> Regards,
>
> D.
>
>
>
> ############################
> # Dominique de Waleffe
> # ddewaleffe -at- gmail -dot- com
> ############################
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Achim Gratz <Stromeko AT nexgo DOT de> wrote:
>> Dominique de Waleffe writes:
>>> Meanwhile, I'll make a VM with a fresh install of Win10 (v1511 x64)
>>> and just Emacs + cygwin and see whether there is something fishy about
>>> my current setup after the upgrades it went through...
>>
>> Is there any reason why you don't use the Emacs that comes with Cygwin?
>> Rebasing Cygwin won't help a bit if some of the GNUwin or MinGW
>> (depending on the build) librraies that Emacs is compiled with collide
>> in that same address space.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Achim.
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