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On 8/30/2015 9:53 AM, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, Bryan Berns!
>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Andrey Repin wrote:
>>> Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!
>>>
>>>> On Aug 26 12:56, Helmut Karlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> Guess that's better than to stick with the kludges, migration to 10 is
>>>>>>> on the way.
>>>>>>  From what I've seen and heard W10, while mostly stable, still coerces users
>>>>>> towards the software as (an expensive) service model and follows the dictum
>>>>>> that Microsoft knows more about what you want than you do (default saves to
>>>>>> microsoft cloud storage, grabs your pictures for background slide show
>>>>>> without asking, etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope I can customize it to behave like XP (only the goodies of
>>>>> course).
>>>
>>>> http://classicshell.net
>>>
>>> That doesn't solve the hotkeys bound at driver levels, unfortunately.
>>> Half of my keyboard dead now thanks to the move to Win7.
>>>
>>> Anyway, on the topic: All I could ask is to give us a notice when the final
>>> build for XP is available, so that we could prepare own mirrors.
>
>> If you're passionate about it and you have any programming experience,
>> keyboard filter drivers are quite easy to write.
>
> You don't even need to write anything - standard driver allows key remapping
> through registry, if that's what you have in mind.
> The driver is not a problem, though, it is OS that register hotkeys in the
> kernel.

One more data point... I moved from XP to Win7Pro not too long 
ago. I agree Cygwin should move beyond XP compatibility level. On 
XP machines which I now occasionally use, I don't expect to update 
Cygwin anymore. While an ability to reinstall Cygwin to the last 
XP-compatible packages would be nice, I have archives of disk 
partitions so I do not expect to reinstall ever.

Win7 does break a lot of VirtuaWin (for virtual desktops) hotkeys, 
in return for a lot of functionality I do not care for. Googling 
for solutions was fruitless. Settled for some loss of 
functionality (all the WinKey + arrow stuff etc), and use absolute 
targets instead of relative targets. That is, WinKey + NumPad# for 
switching desktops and Alt + WinKey + NumPad# for moving app 
windows to particular desktops. Not ideal, though tolerable, and I 
look forward to never ever using the Win10 UI. ;-)

-- 
Cheers,
Kein-Hong Man (esq.)
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia


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