X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=kpH/cRsra2sY6LI0 3wmRMPZFRy4BeznmyDzxFuThv5N8anmn5NUJ1lEbqtuB28xwpyLzDA+zYjAXl6s4 +QZBBmr2yGC+eTx5tD/pyMG5qSimfwUhWwONtRStYvrR0bSSmAN35/PsQ1E+CZ8I DkFqA/anQcA7hH66QklAZqg3iGA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=Jt9MtEx9XIb2tY4GI/IAUh seIns=; b=D3LRkN2qXAv55gCcy0rj0SvoVtg7KmEOQoa573zSw8FBWDE4hpGBQa J95Q78oN0T71HzpVYVOIUR1MEEQ3UIxUIPR93wGJ+C3H8/65wUgcHQZrguA8Nih8 fJtp9Yeb6xbS4yCdht7VFWeH/AVaQxQHG9NkKbigyeB5AW34aOnNI= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: Yes, score=5.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_99,BAYES_999,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: smtp.ht-systems.ru Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 01:36:52 +0300 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <381398230.20150828013652@yandex.ru> To: Corinna Vinschen , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Early Deprecation Notice: Windows XP and Server 2003 support In-Reply-To: <20150827083438.GJ5046@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20150826115109 DOT DC166300 DOT helmut DOT karlowski AT ish DOT de> <49A5ECFF7A0A419F829D58F760F8DDA3 AT NCC1701> <20150826125618 DOT 56814D38 DOT helmut DOT karlowski AT ish DOT de> <20150826112652 DOT GF5046 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <232266374 DOT 20150826152309 AT yandex DOT ru> <20150826142637 DOT GG5046 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <188298177 DOT 20150827024232 AT yandex DOT ru> <20150827083438 DOT GJ5046 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! >> >> That doesn't solve the hotkeys bound at driver levels, unfortunately. >> >> Half of my keyboard dead now thanks to the move to Win7. >> >> > I don't understand this one. Quick explanation, please, even if it's OT? >> >> I was using Win+Arrows to switch between virtual desktops, and >> Shift+Win+Arrows to move windows between desktops. >> For years. >> Decades even. >> But SUDDENLY Microsoft decided that having such freedom is too much for the >> user, or perhaps it was considered a security risk, I don't know. >> I can no longer use these keys in userland. >> Even if I disable the idiotic functionality that is bound to them by default, >> I can't use these keys for anything else. > Well, I guess you're supposed to do this by wiping over the screen with your > fingertip... > On a more serious note, I read > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/how-do-i-change-the-windows-7-keyboard-shortcuts/0110d32d-66c0-4ce7-8682-eeb896e80c3f > Maybe one of AutoHotKey or KEYWIN2 are helpful? I don't know about Keywin2, but how AHK combat it is it hooking directly to window's mssaging queue and intercept everything. It can even intercept win+R and Ctrl+Shift+Esc. But it can't repost the keys back to application that require them. And what I want the least, is that kind of hooking in my system, it screw more than solve. P.S. Ctrl+Alt+Tab is another "perfect" example of Microsoft ingenuity. Like Alt+Tab, Alt+Esc and Win+Tab are all not enough to switch between windows. No, they HAD to make Alt+Tab unusable, AND make ANOTHER hotkey to bring back its original functionality. P.P.S. That's about all hotkeys that I know are now lost to the userland. You can no longer use them in your own applications, unless you go to a great length of seducing the OS to your side. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Friday, August 28, 2015 01:30:09 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple