X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=Xc/qIMBpeYBzeiVQbLBLz3NUEAGqOWzKoiOkRZPLaz02VVf52ERZT wf9yyUi4O1IruuirmxnXkNIWZRELAZmF6Up51AGgyVPYGd+LsobYyo5zqldEmBkN on7topCP2c24evhDlNOcRDaPLIvmApPpYae8lpWjR7ICSGJ5VP5EQs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=XiAa31qCxHzT2qNkNcjmQnir2vI=; b=TIssRrk8Eeym8AfXR6MfYsuuTVJp 7dAwvhrXeOaWcscz/Rc56lHUuLsaeMvU7bY7iDE9zgj4rn+STLnyB4nIjy6GigW0 duVWw8K9X09/2qeh9WeBcuFQhb3lBq0v58Yu723k4CTthyZUetRmuOBYq0g/VWWZ D4LDlHWiaNLtUjs= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 10:34:38 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Early Deprecation Notice: Windows XP and Server 2003 support Message-ID: <20150827083438.GJ5046@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20150826115109 DOT DC166300 DOT helmut DOT karlowski AT ish DOT de> <49A5ECFF7A0A419F829D58F760F8DDA3 AT NCC1701> <20150826125618 DOT 56814D38 DOT helmut DOT karlowski AT ish DOT de> <20150826112652 DOT GF5046 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <232266374 DOT 20150826152309 AT yandex DOT ru> <20150826142637 DOT GG5046 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <188298177 DOT 20150827024232 AT yandex DOT ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBYU9MM4gf8jKg2V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <188298177.20150827024232@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) --gBYU9MM4gf8jKg2V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Aug 27 02:42, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! >=20 > > On Aug 26 15:23, Andrey Repin wrote: > >> Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! > >>=20 > >> > On Aug 26 12:56, Helmut Karlowski wrote: > >> >> > > Guess that's better than to stick with the kludges, migration t= o 10 is > >> >> > > on the way. > >> >> > From what I've seen and heard W10, while mostly stable, still coe= rces users > >> >> > towards the software as (an expensive) service model and follows = the dictum > >> >> > that Microsoft knows more about what you want than you do (defaul= t saves to > >> >> > microsoft cloud storage, grabs your pictures for background slide= show > >> >> > without asking, etc.). > >> >>=20 > >> >> I hope I can customize it to behave like XP (only the goodies of=20 > >> >> course). > >>=20 > >> > http://classicshell.net > >>=20 > >> That doesn't solve the hotkeys bound at driver levels, unfortunately. > >> Half of my keyboard dead now thanks to the move to Win7. >=20 > > I don't understand this one. Quick explanation, please, even if it's O= T? >=20 > I was using Win+Arrows to switch between virtual desktops, and > Shift+Win+Arrows to move windows between desktops. > For years. > Decades even. > But SUDDENLY Microsoft decided that having such freedom is too much for t= he > user, or perhaps it was considered a security risk, I don't know. > I can no longer use these keys in userland. > Even if I disable the idiotic functionality that is bound to them by defa= ult, > I can't use these keys for anything else. Well, I guess you're supposed to do this by wiping over the screen with your fingertip... On a more serious note, I read https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/how-do-= i-change-the-windows-7-keyboard-shortcuts/0110d32d-66c0-4ce7-8682-eeb896e80= c3f Maybe one of AutoHotKey or KEYWIN2 are helpful? 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