X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:from:to:references:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; q=dns; s=default; b=hUrjpKtM72PfzGYsBVj6+dSOzeZBJy fNCf5e8r0HoSLjA5HlNd3gHx+zKHwxf+mJUVjaz2sC4Tpe+c0QEm2yoMiYBo5GTu eaG+sQuOELEq+Xq7g68iNuIOY9sxG+z4ivC4EOxtJRslRMhmdcijOMQD94KkL/ZH OjyNEMdLxOnJ4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:from:to:references:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=default; bh=1GySzaQZG2UCIRTsYW3/6O+Iakg=; b=pTkC Q71ADpSwgsObkMeq5QSsuYA4FubEysQdZvTv4lBQ4FpnrTOk6fpl/OH9sqtNUVSC I6bdBAyw7NuUjoiAx3kXSJl53u54tZxSki+gWMwcOEiuvP5IDD+gMD9PWUqB+JiG shfej9nO1eWye0tZ5+Or56VJpjgLESXCmyR26rM= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: fmailhost02.isp.att.net Reply-To: From: To: References: <20150826115109 DOT DC166300 DOT helmut DOT karlowski AT ish DOT de> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Early Deprecation Notice: Windows XP and Server 2003 support Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:46:10 -0400 Keywords: Business Message-ID: <49A5ECFF7A0A419F829D58F760F8DDA3@NCC1701> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20150826115109.DC166300.helmut.karlowski@ish.de> X-IsSubscribed: yes > > Now that Windows 2003 is finally out of long term support, and given > > that XP's much-too-long-term support ended 2014, I'll drop support for > > XP and Server 2003 from Cygwin End of 2015. > He - I'm still on XP! So am I. Windows 7 doesn't have some features I rely on and Windows 8.X was a disaster. Win 10 seems to be focused not on what users need, but on how much Microsoft can squeeze out of their wallets. > > reports which can't be reproduced on at least Windows Vista (was there > > any XP-specific bug report in the last couple of years anyway?). > Maybe because XP rules? Definitely XP rules! XP may not be supported my Microsoft, but it is still in use by a wide range of individuals and companies. I'm sorry to hear that Cygwin will not be supporting these users in the near future. > > And during 2016 I will also slowly remove all the workarounds and > > kludges necessary to keep these zombies running, thus simplifing the > > codebase. > Guess that's better than to stick with the kludges, migration to 10 is > on the way. From what I've seen and heard W10, while mostly stable, still coerces users towards the software as (an expensive) service model and follows the dictum that Microsoft knows more about what you want than you do (default saves to microsoft cloud storage, grabs your pictures for background slide show without asking, etc.). Their recent "security" patch that put machines in an endless reboot cycle shows the company still hasn't focused on quality or customer needs instead of corporate profits. Win10 has no new innovations that customers need, few if any actual security improvements, and a huge price tag in terms of upgrades, expensive services, and retraining. I'll stick with Win XP for a while longer then switch to open source products and Linux when I must. In the mean time, I guess I will have to say a sad good-bye to Cygwin when they leave. Sincerely, Brian S. Wilson -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple