X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=IdZNUnFFQB8BTK4h BO+waqwZlkTgRJsFSaBmGZjteuGPbYwuhrY9xUaMxSl6iYUeLf089aW0iZIj6CRM KneLN50cikpOi4tS1MEQs9ZbTFzPcrkm1hV+bS+qXD9Z/agNZs8zo+B3I/csiu94 fcf+WhJ4JJOAoHMwp3ih4sFFvWY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=n5knOawG3c26kdkxbC/1ZN dNwio=; b=v7fRmqUVZ1oT6XspJM8Sn8F3yTEOWGGT6gWTKNCvGEu8Ofp7dudM5s g3mvcyRXf5VLwkerioP6w7B1K6nyQduQg6IFOx57H9kAE8o15cLgHbJyL0tjcDW1 daWYhE5Q9rJL7ABv4bDPfc571LAdqr1h51zaf1r/ugyYGhU+b3ksQ= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,MIME_BASE64_BLANKS,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: smtp.ht-systems.ru Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 05:38:38 +0300 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <1023815842.20150711053838@yandex.ru> To: Warren Young , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Telnet / SSH connection timeout on LAN In-Reply-To: <5C24455B-3D28-4C6D-A77B-70BB5D67F0AA@etr-usa.com> References: <1436142936994-119480 DOT post AT n5 DOT nabble DOT com> <7931485F-EEA3-4C1B-8B2C-E495EF5ED1A9 AT etr-usa DOT com> <1283519593 DOT 20150709090453 AT yandex DOT ru> <5C24455B-3D28-4C6D-A77B-70BB5D67F0AA AT etr-usa DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id t6B2opw0015480 Greetings, Warren Young! > On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: >> >>> rsync requires a pretty heavy network transaction to figure >>> out if files have changed. >> >> I'm rsync'ing about 15 gigabytes of my home directory with just a few megs of >> network exchange. > “Just?” > That was my definition of “heavy”. Sorry, but you can't sync data without sending data. And these few megs is the actual data I generate daily. > Consider all the disk I/O required. In its default mode, rsync must do a > full directory tree scan on the directory to be transferred, on *both* ends. > For each file with a different mtime or size, it must then recompute all the > hashes in that file, again on both sides. Wrong. In default mode, rsync only care about timestamp and size. It will not go on hashing crusade unless explicitly told to. > Can you really handwave away megs of network I/O and potentially gigs of > disk I/O? Do you never use locate(1) instead of find(1)? Same issue. I normally know where my stuff is, so I don't need to `find` or waste space on `locate` hash tables. > On top of that, the OP wants to do this every time the machine becomes > idle. Even if it was idle a few seconds ago, did some work, and is idle > again, the OP wants all this work to be done all over again. > Horribly wasteful. > I believe Dropbox and its major competitors avoid the need for this tree > scan by hooking into the OS’s filesystem change notification API, so that > they don’t do any network or disk I/O until one of the files it is responsible for changes. > That’s the right way. VSS would be the right way, but I still did not find time to research its extents. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, July 11, 2015 05:35:21 Sorry for my terrible english...