X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; q=dns; s=default; b=pqww2vYGmFNEI1u8rtdrGHCwNy+d +g1mt37G9ACX3B2UiVmIwRASsLDPJfSP0Rs9ji3lA8vHJUKir1FTVFsjMsrizP4R 008wwGzsd05O1ztqvG4vHAxotbZJxCeh82JAW4x/5jn4lXS+3FgE2v6p/byCRTVj c5NPq4t2uqa3FcM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=default; bh=exps+mEQhrGCO5isGI5jPjKZ1Hk=; b=Ll H07rS3N4f2iO63c5Uz+jds6UQy77DknMaMWSovLTsQi/oOtzVz4wgFrjN1yhsPdP Pn+2ymxG2Xo0S4HCw1OvFrBDURR/YCM7AtFo4xkBnGvQpO83rLDFwKqFWbfdt6f3 jp+pe3zU4zb9JjU6RDWIWMiU3C38tnQ/u2McYwJ54= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: From Microsoft: Windows 10 Console and Cygwin From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: <556E01FC.6060004@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:49:38 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20150429200616 DOT GL3657 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150430082231 DOT GB19795 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150502133833 DOT GB12723 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <1433098286892-118602 DOT post AT n5 DOT nabble DOT com> <20150601082456 DOT GG4308 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <556E01FC DOT 6060004 AT redhat DOT com> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t52KnrYX008628 On Jun 2, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Eric Blake wrote: > > On 06/02/2015 10:37 AM, Rich Eizenhoefer wrote: >> Can you provide more detail on changing isatty function to support Cygwin PTY's? I need to be able to support the request in our backlog. > > As long as we are wishing, it would be awesome if Windows natively > supported ptys as actual objects, instead of making cygwin have to > emulate them on top of other objects. In my ignorance of how ptys map to Windows console objects, I held off from asking for this when Mr. Eizenhoefer solicited ideas, but this is what I thought of at that time, too. In other words, this notion of “virtual terminals” is already implemented multiple times, following a standard that specifies the expected semantics — POSIX — so why not just do that? Why, in the end, can Windows *not* have ptys? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple