X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=nhJPF5HA5duo+Z+a egYGV9BdTc08mTjQVLPbSzWKRgGU6bTDgj6WftdVpjyjWnsgEfaojYeFx5WQbMtY IRvBxVCtLXPlxMxMwzDD+E/hg0CPpS1m8YiqsxScf3kGXFMe/xMl7P+/5eUE9eSn tl7w60/M8xJmnzVNCqdqOeT2Rps= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=M10jkR/zEF8AfC19oJyCPo GzAZk=; b=w+7i3VnbnpWxoPk5xMqKv3ffZ/ZGrEa2LWMybp2UrZG1KVMgLgghDL /kqK9L5L0na537DyMVBfUOkIRklgq2qyNPdECZrfQK6m2FH+l/pNMvt3JeGQESGa oYy45PewZj4Ch6P0X+YnGpm5ab2r9uFnUw3Iueyz4uN7JyPVZG8R4= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_80,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: BAY004-OMC1S5.hotmail.com X-TMN: [qXCxqMBAI9jcYntb4MxECqdUpIzjMSVD] Message-ID: From: "Tony Kelman" To: References: <556B79E7 DOT 8070700 AT towo DOT net> <87pp5fl827 DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> <20150601163329 DOT GQ4308 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <556DF00C DOT 2030000 AT towo DOT net> In-Reply-To: <556DF00C.2030000@towo.net> Subject: Re: mintty project Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:37:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes > • Yaakov could turn github/cygwinports into an "organisation account" > and give me admin rights for the mintty repository. > • I could create a dedicated account and repository. > • I could host mintty somewhere else. There is also an inactive "mintty" user on github, you could contact github about name squatting there and try to turn that into an organization account. Send nowox an email to let him know this conversation is being had (he may not subscribe to the cygwin list?), he might even be willing to transfer ownership of the migrated repository that he's made, if that would save you any time. > My concerns against github are different; I have a strong impression that > it encourages anarchic project handling, > and I feel the concept of everybody being allowed to create forks and > submit "pull requests" may not be good for a core project. > > Opinions? What's wrong with encouraging more people to contribute more easily? Someone qualified still needs to review the patches before merging them, and there are free services that offer excellent integration with github to simplify automated testing. The single biggest argument that I've ever seen in favor of using github is this plot: https://jakevdp.github.io/figures/author_count.png of the cumulative contributor count to numpy, scipy, and matplotlib over time, comparing trends before and after those projects moved to github. Large projects like Node.js, Rust, Julia, manage just fine with hundreds of contributors on github (and would probably not flourish anywhere near as well if they were not using github). For a project with a smaller number of contributors like mintty, really the only thing you have to do to avoid your perceived "anarchy" problem is emphasize that your repo is the canonical upstream. If you're taking over maintenance of the cygwin package, that's not hard to do. -Tony -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple