X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; q=dns; s=default; b=BhUlOMNKzOolRotCrQDxsn+If49Oi Re11Va/wz63WvDPE/KD1zQSqm1FihwDuQJO9tfMLl8lcAZcdePbvNgfeJZT2wbcF WNzX0TlmjG12WBWe4PICV5FqlW0cz4xce2uVwSW4r1ln/RVP/BJtoCHX581JwNoZ i+veFT32hHv72o= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; s=default; bh=y5mcpJSZ8zMbuxE0K1we0M71BQ4=; b=Erp zjrLgXbtjI+5P6N3Ha1TSszmwD6/CbzINhAwIdZa+wIxrUkxAF6fIWrz/Gqz4cw6 BhQdSIXY1NfPve2it3AJr0Z9kt4oGSLbWwCHtN60ctF7SBe5mK986TUcOt0Z6sO2 8mDMI+wO8/4oSBVL2gAN9YN/iAwm/j7dl8dk5I64= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,MIME_BASE64_BLANKS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com From: Rich Eizenhoefer To: =?utf-8?B?xLBzbWFpbCBEw7ZubWV6?= , "cygwin AT cygwin DOT com" Subject: RE: From Microsoft: Windows 10 Console and Cygwin Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:37:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150429200616 DOT GL3657 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150430082231 DOT GB19795 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150502133833 DOT GB12723 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <1433098286892-118602 DOT post AT n5 DOT nabble DOT com> <20150601082456 DOT GG4308 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=riche AT microsoft DOT com; x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;BN3PR03MB1431;3:Deco9s32lg2ndaRlNXWfgglvRBDLhcds6ZAfjKgAi51PCPw1FLBXAcoDX0VYLJXj0XEaqaGHyIu6nkP0zFyYnMnRzMNV2wHZPk3RvxNRZE3wa0w3vF3fd4se0AXi8wZvH5kqGlD/iyGt66drX7lpAg==;10:+awhiYwKBWpm/QPXZPUt0dk5d4cQO4mPxVKRzfcahBgU53Mr6bfPbcAJzlYUhIo/xxbH7lNWxJUabSEhpa3OQthIeJI0V5nF6YAvHzrQL5c=;6:nOj/GcTmtqkqEMzkqMQg0junwxCCB1+mRqYiBNvOhojENEf/IneWCQ17q1JHwfBT x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN3PR03MB1431; x-o365ent-eop-header: Message processed by - O365_ENT: Allow from ranges (Engineering ONLY) x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(601004)(2401001)(520003)(5005006)(3002001);SRVR:BN3PR03MB1431;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN3PR03MB1431; x-forefront-prvs: 05954A7C45 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(189002)(54094003)(43784003)(66654002)(51914003)(13464003)(24454002)(199003)(46102003)(92566002)(33656002)(101416001)(50986999)(19580395003)(74316001)(2501003)(86612001)(19580405001)(76176999)(54356999)(2950100001)(68736005)(2900100001)(102836002)(5001860100001)(2656002)(122556002)(77096005)(40100003)(66066001)(106356001)(5001830100001)(87936001)(64706001)(86362001)(81156007)(5002640100001)(5001960100002)(107886002)(5001920100001)(76576001)(189998001)(99286002)(106116001)(4001540100001)(5001770100001)(93886004)(77156002)(62966003)(105586002)(97736004);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BN3PR03MB1431;H:BN3PR03MB1430.namprd03.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: microsoft.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 02 Jun 2015 16:37:33.9962 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR03MB1431 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id t52Gbp3J017665 Can you provide more detail on changing isatty function to support Cygwin PTY's? I need to be able to support the request in our backlog. Thanks again, Rich -----Original Message----- From: İsmail Dönmez [mailto:ismail AT donmez DOT ws] Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:10 AM To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Rich Eizenhoefer Subject: Re: From Microsoft: Windows 10 Console and Cygwin On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Rich Eizenhoefer wrote: > This feature requires multiple moving parts from other teams at Microsoft and we have not started on it yet. We have begun planning for the first post-Windows 10 release, and within our team we have talked about how to create hidden consoles and make the console driver/API better all around. I don't have a timeframe yet when we might get to this but it has been part of our presentation to management about the backlog items we prioritized. Overall there are almost 280 items on the backlog and this is in the "elite 25" that are being considered. Many thanks for the update, one thing I wonder if you consider changing isatty function to support Cygwin PTYs, that would fix a lot of headaches we have with native windows programs running under Cygwin. ismail