X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=nm QxmmLcSw+ychiXrs5qDtavckghUYZbd5A93uxKj1eNdCxZenoF5FuXo9AeaoUsgl UzCW88LLRcl7Ns4Y6aX+dmi5cCHORHdtpsIp5LtSLks2iIgrFlb3N46WZ1etnhX2 KwB8Sk4Nha/zbmMsZBTEJ1chRWn4Un1BOVjDJ+rN4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; s=default; bh=EpCkvUuN qrjBvNEkIe0PCyuEngc=; b=tCkmuUeVZc0cTvWcAkKU3CDg1ldAysNmJ0xd7/K5 fOfW6dY5JxtIm7iBiKc4dLUivev6tLWS/Xah+656QaASzi0+TFjTq6aZnbjlR7an almXXF1iZiB72UDvzdii4N3BPRR0DdD/TI3Tj42AWrN3/viTkddIFBh9+rNo3klY gys= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-wi0-f172.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FjLOyOQFJrk2fhj+ko/p3sRIwgvTWY+swgWSx6z3Pn8=; b=fSf+RoMJRBZMCWQQNq4p+YOT/EzqHrSkI/ti4N2vTg2/PP/ujT1LuUq49pd8HBC8FA VeOXk4NMILCn/oj073Oojuc/UZtglyk9q02m69Emr+kczGxjgTOhyCIEZzZHai4eF7hL DKGEWL+AWUa6wi4g+OCDfctzXSK6NA3JfYMPRqeZfK+jrPQXCZwUWEDUNKtDSCkwKJn3 DL7/3ALkRHM6vO2FDhVOtBYPlchWgmabiS1gJW7yAkK5/oYQ01eKtxsxZzHMdRmTzt/r xaZ8zUDKt6lXcyJ/6s0tKidILh0MGaHIjq/Iuk0iAiIOjn4qrlgFcIN4va08OEhz3fHu mgtA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnnhhsOMbYpsbDx3WbKr6pVuJPzc2+ia1908iqMXDA7hl6dlzF6fSFgTJ3LButZ1s8FzMLD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.216.42 with SMTP id on10mr8419522wjc.131.1432239472395; Thu, 21 May 2015 13:17:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <555E3A14.4080906@gmail.com> References: <1432168249 DOT 3408 DOT 16 DOT camel AT cygwin DOT com> <555E3A14 DOT 4080906 AT gmail DOT com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 13:17:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: Tcl/Tk 8.5.18 From: Michael Enright To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Marco Atzeri wrote: > If you look at the list of maintainers > https://cygwin.com/cygwin-pkg-maint > > you will notice that it is very very short. > > Basically: > Corinna is handling the cygwin core > Yaakov is handlig > 50% of the packages > Jon is handling all the X server > Achim is handling all perl > Ken is handling all texlive > Add me, Jary and Volker and we cover ~ 90% of all packages > > Please consider the additional burden you are asking to the > limited maintainers' resources. > > Regards > Marco > Thank-you for bringing this side of it to my attention. I think we all participate or have participated at some point in projects where tradeoffs of user effect vs developer time are made. I think it is fair to escalate the question of where this balance is set from time to time. I have used Cygwin for several years and only recently did I have such a serious problem with it that I had to email this list for support instead of working around the problem. I once had to counsel customers to stick with Cygwin 1.5 because we didn't get approval to fix our call to "nc" to match the version packaged in Cygwin 1.7, given the balance of factors on our end. This is one understaffed project forcing the hand of another understaffed project. We upgraded our "nc" usage about two years after the problem was diagnosed, because more and more users had downloaded a current version of Cygwin and hit the 'nc' incompatibility. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple