X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=KfZR WhWEguFY3mX9vZi1TtlD9vIXxk88jy6mk1dQi48WagKmAsO/gQOyT0zXfJNVTKxG Ff12diEJCHMawiVfuF2KjmVNGZS/TOl18evUKFsoClPQD9E/I5aY1Bvq8+eSwMoq BQYCUALvGuI/usqZP9rerrYZScAFucF0vuw0NDQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; s=default; bh=GUq0VhNDVc wobJzq4Xuy3acOCyI=; b=Ytq608RWGzgx+DM2bPpRuu7QMLtGHj7dTxNz3MSgYe oLua0Sys2dB3beIqFjfL+1CI2NHl1z0nVfTm7g2E0PkoDNJrqNPibtWCkSH/P7OL qYWfp3GPiNvVJVB+EWcPe+Y8bbODtNU1mDP7kXsCvcZEmcPYIMihF/JrAjfEJ25b A= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-lb0-f170.google.com X-Received: by 10.112.12.34 with SMTP id v2mr8242816lbb.71.1430489617812; Fri, 01 May 2015 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: unix user - who BOYCOTTED microsoft a long time ago - still not paid for microsoft legal infringements To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com references: <5543839A DOT 4030703 AT cox DOT net> From: LRN x-enigmail-draft-status: N1111 message-id: <55438A09.8010701@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 17:13:29 +0300 user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0a1 mime-version: 1.0 in-reply-to: <5543839A.4030703@cox.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U5wUamb5kAicdX9hpuqWWui2ANJ8kKXlx" X-IsSubscribed: yes --U5wUamb5kAicdX9hpuqWWui2ANJ8kKXlx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060906010800000805090302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060906010800000805090302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01.05.2015 16:46, John D. Hendrickson wrote: > i've been findign allot of microsoft hacks in Unix code I had to re-read your message a few times to make any sense of it. I'll try= to sum it up as best as i can, please verify that no meaning was lost in the p= rocess. Your issue is with portable projects (that can be compiled for W32; you see= m to focus on Cygwin specifically, but i presume you mean any W32, not just Cygw= in - i.e MinGW too). They are: 1) Getting ifdefs for W32/Cygwin-specific code. You dislike that this damag= es readability, but since no W32/Cygwin-specific code gets compiled for non-W32/Cygwin platforms, you're kind of "ok" with this. 2) Getting redesigned to fit W32/Cygwin better (you gave no specific exampl= es, but i presume that you've meant this too; if you didn't, please say so) - l= ike getting functions that are no-ops everywhere except on W32/Cygwin, getting abstractions that are only meaningful on W32/Cygwin. 3) Getting features that only have meaning on W32/Cygwin (or have meaning on other platforms as well, but you dislike these features), but which introdu= ce dependencies that otherwise would not be there. 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