X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=dw/VRYXx+YrlSpl0 hYSmVtoLp9SY8m+G4YZ/ipYFPzAkrqYtvUp2bShd99OsZpefLSB89bZPiHwZs3r/ HJueoU6HRTNo9b4zroiAdYi+78tLJyzvcz0Iyt5gI6vE+mk5FgVoNPAZmuyM4ek6 XnLrwO30a3wsZ2YXiLxuEaDXs9c= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=VWUVP8WRat0p1nTCJcWqz9 MIS88=; b=b2M3tzFpLX7dEdrtiZZ+xLS1ar+xAX5ZbjQN9QzpCb1D5L9opbDdPz EnrM6Ny07L9fgPz8eY+UoxiDWpLOEQhdBTo+QOxfCQ+Q61q6k8k+0snFiQPJGzdl 6N1zuX53RwgNGTAzsJ9ObbtMBj6++Oz/bbyNQoHkB5bhGp1C+joQs= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20,KAM_COUK,URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_REDIR autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: out.ipsmtp2nec.opaltelecom.net X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2DaAgAWZu1U/14z0lUNToNVVQWDCK1AAQEBAQIGkkyFcwMCAoFsAQEBAQEBhQwBAQQjDwFFEQsIEAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgE3AQ0TBgIBAYgWARy6I3CGU4xPCIYAAQEBAQYBAQEBAQEBG4EhhGaFDIR1FoJSgUMFkzuFZYEbjBwCgkSCcU2EEG8LAQGCNgEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A2DaAgAWZu1U/14z0lUNToNVVQWDCK1AAQEBAQIGkkyFcwMCAoFsAQEBAQEBhQwBAQQjDwFFEQsIEAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgE3AQ0TBgIBAYgWARy6I3CGU4xPCIYAAQEBAQYBAQEBAQEBG4EhhGaFDIR1FoJSgUMFkzuFZYEbjBwCgkSCcU2EEG8LAQGCNgEBAQ Message-ID: <54ED667E.1040602@dwalin.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 06:06:54 +0000 From: Sam Edge Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: chgrp in Windows References: <1YQPDm-0LnoQa0 AT fwd06 DOT aul DOT t-online DOT de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 25/02/2015 00:08, Warren Young wrote: >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> >>> The result of chown I can see in Windows Explorer as the Owner but where is the group information? >> It’s over on the Security tab of the same window you’re looking at: “Group or user names”. > I just remembered that that tab isn’t always visible. If you’re running a “home” version of Windows, there’s a pretty good chance you don’t even see this tab. > > If that’s your situation, you can un-hide this tab: > > http://goo.gl/MDoBo1 > http://goo.gl/C2p2N5 > > That tab can also be hidden because: > > - a group policy setting disabled it > > - you’re working on a non-NTFS drive > > - you’re working on a shared network drive that doesn’t fully support Windows security > > etc. > I'm pretty sure Cygwin uses the NTFS "primary group" in which to store the POSIX group ID. Unfortunately, the owning group ("primary group" in NTFS/Active-Directory-speak) for a file or folder isn't displayed at all in the Explorer GUI, only the owner (user in POSIX-speak). To confuse matters more, in Windows the owning user can actually be a group. The primary group was only there to support things like the (moribund) POSIX subsystem in Windows NT-series OSes and the network SFU (services for UNIX) and is not used by the 'native' Windows subsystem at all, although it is propagated through the CIFS network filesystem which is handy for us. You'll need to add a bolt-on (like SFU I think) if you want to see a tab on the Explorer security settings showing the primary group. Or just use Cygwin ls. :-) -- Sam Edge -- Sam Edge -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple