X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=cuBa7nuxUH9gn3eUrMMTB4Zf/F98WBpzz7wv5WRdiVF XvyTv6ZGjVeWPrA7n81jJxNqZRwIcJeZMdjQw3ehIoXip3fqRv/AqlVi4AtvqShd JTyk5oT/G5f4vTeIBo/fRxTSmumnhkZ4ZJDnkyRfFx0g7HTp4b8HECEqVcimh4tc = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=4krjI9LMm56R1gs8SrOKPSQycHk=; b=qFXHQTlh6Hlb3dzNX ETCkdEf3EZN058sQpYZEKVV5fBi8628zKdCN7/6fN2dc1pb0wU+FtUoJw91DTlDF 0p4/EhUa9Snnaj7MljyxK2YDy85LFlsqveLxTnn+En2SbAnD5TWvcK+FgH96sCYm OxZlRDt2Q+73zr4Sdp51zQg5m0= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-ig0-f182.google.com X-Received: by 10.50.108.68 with SMTP id hi4mr165341igb.38.1421176343207; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 11:12:23 -0800 (PST) From: "cyg Simple" To: References: <20150107174122 DOT GB4190 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150108171825 DOT GB15791 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <8761cez7qi DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> <20150112103834 DOT GA15213 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150113125648 DOT GV15791 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20150113135339 DOT GW15791 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <04ae01d02f3e$7eb2f6c0$7c18e440$@gmail.com> <20150113154719 DOT GX15791 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20150113154719.GX15791@calimero.vinschen.de> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] TEST RELEASE: Cygwin 1.7.34-003 (Christmas/New Year release) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:12:35 -0500 Message-ID: <074901d02f64$e54a6f00$afdf4d00$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t0DJCeuh027984 > From: Corinna Vinschen > > On Jan 13 09:37, cyg Simple wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Achim Gratz > > > > > > Corinna Vinschen writes: > > > > Which means what for the Cygwin DLL? Dropping TMP/TEMP from the > > > > merged Windows env? It makes sense, I think. Of course, there > > > > will be others... > > > > My process is dependent on the fact that TMP/TEMP have in/out > > rewriting of strings from POSIX to WINDOWS so please leave it as is. > > You're missing something here. What we're talking about is a merge of the Correct, I was missing this key point. > user's Windows default environment at the time of a user context switch (for > instance, logon via ssh). In that case, "leaving it as is" > today would mean to *drop* TMP/TEMP from the environment, because that's > what ssh does anyway. Ssh drops almost everything from the environment, > before exec'ing the child process. And that's a good thing, because the > environment (e.g. LOCALAPPDATA, USERPROFILE, etc) would otherwise reflect > the settings of the user running the sshd service, not the settings of the user just > logging in. > Shouldn't these be removed during the startup of sshd? Then the child process would setup the variables during the login process? > The new functionality we're talking about here is that the next Cygwin would > "resurrect" the Windows environment setting for the child process started by > sshd. And these settings would be the one for the user just logging in. This > would help some Windows applications which otherwise choke if these > Windows environment variables are missing. Ack. > > Having said that, TMP/TEMP have the downside of being used by POSIX and > Windows applications alike. Therefore these variables usually are converted > from Windows to POSIX and vice versa on the fly. This is what I was referring to earlier. > > However, whether it makes sense to set TMP/TEMP in a ssh logon session or a > cron session is questionable. Ack. The environment tends to be empty on cron in *nix so I agree. The logon process tends to be what sets the variables, however with Cygwin sshd we need to logon to a new user; would remote desktop protocol provider API help? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd919947(v=vs.85).aspx -- cyg Simple -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple