X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=aPQJTWojq6/xJDhDfv1JdC7i1LLue N5zD0Kn4Sykr6TySsN1uU8h6UsPTsYenerZeEKKhbOeBK3sHhjLog5VkZBGIT1k4 fTHh02d7z6k5Q/Mhps2H18Zb2qgv14VlEAxwIt6NJqnZ0jAWOMcIGXPF12OMI5T+ zKtIhqDn0uhjkE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; s=default; bh=AiYyghkqxToypYj7DuJKUa3q/RI=; b=EFK DHEtxEhDGKAa1ap7L5YI7srGvjh18AnWuEaOqogamOnaKD7lZOM5R0WPgg/x3yfW 3oWruLLO7AvZoEeTwqKjfaquZ7b1ExeXMaH6MbgdVr1UppC3kXJzzQOTLWpuQD7+ B0Prs93NlRyUFLpOJ6Hex6f7tH2XxfU+/oO1j2Uc= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-yh0-f43.google.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.14.100 with SMTP id c64mr25028857yhc.139.1418718474585; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:27:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:27:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OpenSSL as Base package From: Steven Penny To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes I feel that OpenSSL should be a Cygwin Base package. I looked at these distros Debian http://debian.org/CD/live Fedora http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde Puppy http://puppylinux.org Porteus http://porteus.org MSYS2 http://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2 and they all come with OpenSSL pre-installed. The only trouble I see with this is currently Cygwin OpenSSL has Perl dependency. Debian has resolved this by maintaining 2 Perl packages http://packages.debian.org/perl-base includes /bin/perl 1.4 MB http://packages.debian.org/perl includes /bin/cpan 4.2 MB Of course the Cygwin package sizes will be different, but it shows significant space can be saved for users who do not need a full Perl install. This does fly in the face of my previous protestations http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-10/msg00563.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-06/msg00279.html http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-08/msg00152.html However by my calculations this could change the package sizes to current Cygwin perl 14.0 MB new Cygwin perl-base 3.5 MB new Cygwin perl 10.5 MB I think most people would be fine with having a small Cygwin "perl-base" in the "Base" category. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple