X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; q=dns; s=default; b=ue 8vgKcdaIHtwGj8JztOPV5VWE6b1yOVQPkRtBedBSKDSWAq+5ZkM03NyQ/lCGeynj Qe7rCHJGS5usEcT7JpKdUeFbY/ZoV1EjqAwDTvuzTRRKcoGVpOqOXbZK/RIkSUg+ gKj9NVpQFcizb2EeGxSBsybpFtGrrun2DL3hzXzwo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; s=default; bh=LAGzwUEm KpOw3RYsStLbGKZJp0o=; b=cZlgh39hb7TTs6B+UFm0Dnnl/ukxp5OGYkkj6yTK O9gMhBxTbkJF90gZ7SgLiqhroZukM+98XDhcX3F38CwCzMLUlCM2Ha50kwBbsq0m f6nk+D2B9A1r2CZId051xRFXmCL//oZB7SZbRkfmPo+cidbYkcTFv9geAxAlYzkx MgQ= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNSUBSCRIBE_BODY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com From: Warren Young Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Subject: /usr/local, /var and */tmp in c:\Users\Public Message-Id: <81578012-FD3F-4463-BC56-ADB092317DD4@etr-usa.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:00:04 -0700 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-IsSubscribed: yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id sACHxsE4025893 I didn’t want to derail the discussion about the future of /home with this, so I’m starting a new thread. I think it would be an improvement to Cygwin if c:\cygwin contained only things that can be reinstalled from your local setup.exe download cache, in the same way that you can nuke "c:\Program Files\Microsoft Office $version” and reinstall without losing anything you created locally. Further design principles follow from this: - User data should live in directories that those users are normally allowed to write to. - Per-machine software and per-machine configuration should be in directories that local Administrators can normally write to. - Software built from source (/usr/local) should not be in c:\cygwin; it is per-machine configuration, and so should be elsewhere. - If you tighten down what remains so that normal users only get read permission, it should continue to function, in the same way that normal users on a Linux box don’t need write access to, say, /usr/include. This /etc/fstab addition mostly accomplishes that: c:/Users/Public/Cygwin/var /var ntfs auto 0 0 c:/Users/Public/Cygwin/usr/local /usr/local ntfs auto 0 0 c:/Users/Public/Cygwin/tmp /tmp ntfs notexec 0 0 c:/Users/Public/Cygwin/tmp /usr/tmp ntfs notexec 0 0 c:/Users/Public/Cygwin/tmp /var/tmp ntfs notexec 0 0 I propose that this or something like it be added to the default fstab. It should apply to an existing setup without trouble. If you already have things in /var and /usr/local, you should copy those trees over first. The only thing remaining in c:\cygwin that can’t be moved in this way — but which it would be nice to — is /etc. If you try, you will find that it makes Cygwin asplode; cygwin1.dll needs to find $cygbindir/../etc in order to find /etc/fstab, at the least. Attempting to create a “shadow /etc” — vaguely like how Linux’s initrd works — also failed here, but it doesn’t seem like a good idea to do this anyway. It means you now have to remember which of the two etc dirs to edit files in, a management hassle I don’t want. (Anyone who uses FreeBSD with Ports installed knows this pain, with /etc and /usr/local/etc. In Cygwin, it would be /etc and /cygdrive/c/cygwin/etc.) Are there any directories I have missed? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple