X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=eidXGxAEhBvMBQdYQMYhSb6LPHvhgLQsoGgDYz9Lo1MVIw/mpksZH Z2NkIEXmjrPdKRrY18SZ52xSXJUDQcw72IoW+4jMKidFnK1lxAyrLTpstrsVE6W3 5o5yuwnm/x/1gsV/klNiqGy+pXgBDCUBdltNa48dyWdUsVjSHDe0NU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=GYQbOHzfxexNfJI9uiCukbkrXYc=; b=ruVBatzH1kGK98SFkRgK+nv4JZyk 22kogCvlANkoIxcex2MdgvKhGdGHzd8EoCJGYqBVCzvQjMMzfI9n22Qh5FVw2UBR xORoTUoDuK239hZgm3WmCQkqDkcFOq8AuXIX9hJmeCNZeGRGbmtLm+Ci5WoRsk+c llycFv9Se14YmLg= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:02:39 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Setup 2.774 texlive postinstall takes 10+ hours Message-ID: <20141111160239.GS2782@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <1414708038168-112334 DOT post AT n5 DOT nabble DOT com> <54567198 DOT 8000504 AT cornell DOT edu> <20141103102515 DOT GS14051 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <87a948kvpw DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> <20141104085958 DOT GA4932 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <54618F4C DOT 6000107 AT cygwin DOT com> <546191B0 DOT 4050808 AT cygwin DOT com> <20141111115343 DOT GQ2782 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <546219A9 DOT 2070103 AT cornell DOT edu> <54622517 DOT 7030302 AT cornell DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tqSMaTz1cCSspCQ4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54622517.7030302@cornell.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) --tqSMaTz1cCSspCQ4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Nov 11 10:02, Ken Brown wrote: > On 11/11/2014 9:14 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > >On 11/11/2014 6:53 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>On Nov 10 22:33, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > >>>On 2014-11-10 22:23, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > >>>>Dependency order of packages: libgcc1 base-cygwin cygwin dash tzcode > >>>>libstdc++6 terminfo sed gzip libpcre1 grep libreadline7 bash > >>>>libncursesw10 > >>>[snip] > >>> > >>>Now that I think about it, regardless of libgcc1, that still doesn't > >>>make > >>>much sense. sed, grep, and bash depend on libintl8, which depends on > >>>libiconv2, and libreadline7 (which is required by bash) itself > >>>depends on > >>>libncursesw10, so that should be at least two places earlier. All of > >>>those > >>>dependencies are listed in setup.hint (and hence setup.ini), so is the= re > >>>something wrong with setup itself? > >> > >>What about dependency loops? > >> > >>AFAICS, coreutils depends on tzcode, tzcode depends on coreutils. Both > >>depend on libgcc1. This introduces a big problem in dependency > >>resolution because there's no unambiguous starting point. > >> > >>What if we remove the coretuls dep from tzcode. > >> > >>Or, actually, what if we make sure that Base packages only depend > >>on libs, but never on any other Base package? > > > >Except that all Base packages (other than base-cygwin) should depend on > >base-cygwin. That will guarantee that base-cygwin precedes all other > >Base packages in the dependency order. In theory that should be solved by the dependency to cygwin. Cygwin depends on base-cygwin, all other packages depend on cygwin. The problem is just that dependency loops can break that. > >And if we make _autorebase > >depend on nothing, then we're guaranteed that it precedes anything that > >depends on it. Per its setup.hint file it depends on nothing, just like base-cygwin, and both packages request that they don't get an automatic dependency to cygwin added. > Of course, this still doesn't solve the problem of making sure that the > _autorebase postinstall script runs whenever the user installs a package > containing DLLs. I wonder if we should reconsider Achim's proposal. If I > understand correctly, it is something like this (oversimplified): >=20 > 1. Change autorebase.bat to do an incremental rebase instead of trying to= do > a full rebase. >=20 > 2. Arrange for autorebase.bat to never be marked as "done". >=20 > Achim, please correct me if my oversimplification distorts your suggestion > too much. Achim, can you give a management summary how your proposal works? Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --tqSMaTz1cCSspCQ4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUYjMfAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+gAlMP/A6qBiHUd/cSugbC9OeZbj0Y m96481xH5X5XSbDFysULOVqpzO/OaROUqexw62bs/utZuL9P+R8T2lJUrrmJOzbn e7YBBs2uRuwf3Ddw89f5J+WmBrRexBhf/u+TTGN7j7zv3y5oCGB+dHR2IvAXQcY3 Z9N2J+28vz7qy7l7CfJ2WiYAZ5kJo82xCNPLi+kSoC4cYJNuMiGL0EMZZN2+rvzu 78LCLYLNBv/rdXx+77QQtugQcONuKURdHJR/J1CCq9YGBM+S2bSodzGDT4kcezo1 VE+Qldi4/WvD160qN3kE0zhGZQl5AWLwG4gWZ8Y6sGkhzTpULvW41Lr8a6uAkpRy lPzd+pi6BRSIEwLYRQilgmeZFOAVUwZbrsj44FmyQsTtVZg7Q5jbexi972lPLQd9 /e50n7iAw6SPb0B/NfK+dnfak/KyOqHZrCyRfFhmgd/R8Tlyd7uQabB/chNy1x/l noNhDD9FKDVRla+wzSodcTcJTiT+4jzg/Dh7y2XHH9+UAAZCUnYtJ9MLiRtCM25g 0at02yhZB+RYBt1AFdX1Yf4ki8rFZhmU15k1+3HchGaAgzHvH9+Uqj3R7qT6PF4p k9IbYMWB3g1q1NnrYwROZ/PYBM2jnwNknylZOaxvo22T4a6lxm3/vn607U1PQPbj 4fH7laWua1DuQ44xcdgM =wF98 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tqSMaTz1cCSspCQ4--