X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=aSk1CbfH8SUBHH6TDnvn6CHuyxI5zHhHp9EpUEtfDWh /bGUWFVh4zgzDkBjgi8kuGr9u7GSldtyrAdobjoOQEKWsRg6/0w9wA0zNKdxj0Ri jxH4vHtj/wRrPzmlqbTS6xOj03w8aVOIgo5xDTJ2Wzf3WW1w6sPquf01mLCFhIag = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=A8fX6nP0g9N0f32jjY/CgV5NzZY=; b=klWk7owIUhuNdcsNr aVHUb92cbmn1DHdBeNBuClC1neV0aNyX6amWiEAVOZkkhqQRhmsSXl6Hq/GBphwp D5t+VRUVZV9mBk3suA9P7a/Oy5ThbndSgqrGGJb0TTZT2QvoHsGu4GmIo7+wqgQh W2TjeIRUds8tPou2UdPVsnwRak= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: limerock03.mail.cornell.edu X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Message-ID: <53E3CB46.1020909@cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:53:58 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: (call-process ...) hangs in emacs References: <53DB8D23 DOT 7060806 AT alice DOT it> <20140801133225 DOT GD25860 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53DEDBBA DOT 20102 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140804080034 DOT GA2578 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53DF8BDC DOT 8090104 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140804134526 DOT GK2578 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53E0CC2D DOT 4080305 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140805135830 DOT GA9994 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53E11A93 DOT 9070800 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140805184047 DOT GC13601 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53E3685B DOT 8050508 AT cornell DOT edu> <53E39BAD DOT 3010004 AT redhat DOT com> In-Reply-To: <53E39BAD.3010004@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 8/7/2014 11:30 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/07/2014 05:51 AM, Ken Brown wrote: >> >> I think I found the problem with NORMAL mutexes. emacs calls >> pthread_atfork after initializing the mutexes, and the resulting >> 'prepare' handler locks the mutexes. (The parent and child handlers >> unlock them.) So when emacs calls fork, the mutexes are locked, and >> shortly thereafter the Cygwin DLL calls calloc, leading to a deadlock. >> Here's a gdb backtrace showing the sequence of calls: > > Arguably, that's an upstream bug in emacs. POSIX has declared > pthread_atfork to be fundamentally useless; it is broken by design, > because you cannot use it for anything that is not async-signal-safe > without risking deadlock. And (except for sem_post()), NONE of the > standardized locking functions are async-signal-safe. > > http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=858 > > That said, it would still be nice to support this, since even though the > theory says it is broken, there are still lots of (broken) > programs/libraries still trying to use it. So what do you think emacs should do instead of using pthread_atfork? Or is it better to just remove it? I don't know how likely it is that this would cause a problem. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple