X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=BS49U atB/335ecejxMchrMRyK7Ln7Qx+UCv7Y4WlmqUMFXc8j+AVRJtXd56ptaYw1pxs7 uKNppk+aBD3L4gnr9FMZHUAjswObwXG6/fdjLrq111rrwyVuUHQCSvE8e6r4ixDL 98+dFW6gGMMyiixC2unc2seTQgf+/ZjDtoCSKk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type; s=default; bh=VD8ihf0YKUQ 7zxo5W7I+tf01aWw=; b=gKfictrXUHJcH78qXq2SKv42QOutpjDYfaM8MKRz1Cw /+LoKgbYhwgh9WRfToh1Pp+Gam59s6s6inojCZcIC2CsSsyhj8rNezTikaU0ZyUK 7HDRy2H+3hJfYuqkFTs6QzRYuhIuTZO9ziTRZCDaMcaWHHNrFJ5SFJ8qjrT2u6Do = Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail.sciencetools.com Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Troy To: Steven Penny cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Basic question about cygport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <53E00E07 DOT 2040509 AT cygwin DOT com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LFD 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Steven Penny wrote: ...snip... > > This is highly presumptuous. I have asked 10 questions and given 68 answers on ... This list has had a long history of having a somewhat different attitude - culture, if you will - than you might find elsewhere on the net; some might call it ascerbic. However, the deeper point is that if you want help here, fitting in with the culture you find here is the way to go. The REAL issue isn't how good or bad whatever else is, it's that people are busy and have the view, "help me help you", and "I only help people who have shown they are trying", however that's expressed, and that's reasonable enough. In this case, a reasonable translation of the comment you elicited would be: "I'm too busy to go click somewhere else; you want to solicit my help for free, make it easy for me." The insult of others was unfortunate. I for one wish people would lighten up; if you don't want to help, don't, but telling other people off about it is not useful; you could have helped the person by doing those other things (like looking at stackoverflow) using less energy than you spent being abrasive. Thankfully, the "rough attitude" is not held by everyone, though it sometimes has been seen in people who carry platinum watches - and that might encourage its continuation... BTW, if I knew how to contribute more than just explaining the culture, I would... Good luck to everyone, Richard -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple