X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to :references:message-id; q=dns; s=default; b=LgdzbRNKxnlPlPnWi6DX CAT21HtIqtUJkweN6bRi87car6dts1Lab/1+ZyFQA5oA0yi4XWPSs7wmY54TnkE2 /cw3AsCgD+Ef9Gv/fSnukk+ekwwReJHWQGtl9HbRXhO7wnQTSZSjDCrrgQp6I2IW SS8N9+G1eRQNi2OPrACUHl0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to :references:message-id; s=default; bh=aiQQHfrpFMPFilslRFjqp37Q7P 0=; b=RzcektIRqSYXPKGNJApsTHxgQ9SS/Ff7hCbbr5evV+qnuq5r7ltmMCLbcV adhHr7CN9OWoUOIpU6Bgbm82JQJdmV+nr6T4XHdZHc4pJ5+6txbmKgSfol8ecUXf NKgZCVtywU//f22Z3/XA2Fdd/iThkJpmLM0IU9+Wr1Hzbn5e0= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: smtprelay03.ispgateway.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:13:16 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: emacs oddity In-Reply-To: <537C04A0.60409@cornell.edu> References: <537bec06 DOT 6926ec0a DOT 5737 DOT 68db AT mx DOT google DOT com> <537C04A0 DOT 60409 AT cornell DOT edu> Message-ID: X-Sender: markus DOT hoenicka AT mhoenicka DOT de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-IsSubscribed: yes At 2014-05-21 03:42, Ken Brown was heard to say: > On 5/20/2014 7:57 PM, Max Polk wrote: >> I've been noticing the background timer giving odd messages from >> emacs-w32 once in a while such as the following when not touching the >> keyboard and the editor is idle.: >> >> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", -0.0e+NaN >> seconds-to-time: Arithmetic range error: "round", 0.0 >> >> The stack dump of a recent emacs crash report on this list seemed to >> be in background timer code. Maybe we found something. > > Have you tried the test release > (https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-05/msg00047.html)? > Hi, I haven't followed this thread in all its gory details, but I recall that only emacs-w32 was reported to have problems. I have noticed random crashes and weird messages without prior user actions in emacs-x11 since I moved from WinXP + Cygwin x86 to Win7 + Cygwin x86_64 a few weeks ago. None of these problems ever occurred on either FreeBSD (amd64, Emacs 24) or Debian (amd64, Emacs 23). I just thought I'd mention this because the problem does not seem to be limited to the -w32 build of Emacs. I've preserved the odd messages on three separate occasions: Args out of range: [t 21335 39727 373923 0.5 blink-cursor-timer-function nil nil 100000], 4 Invalid function: #[(timer) "^H >^H > ^[\211^203^Q^@Å^H \"^Q^K\203^Z^@Å^H \"^R^L\206^_^@^K*\207" [timer timer-list timer-idle-list cell2 cell1 delq] 4 2245674] timer-relative-time: Wrong type argument: vectorp, [t1 time high low micro pico nil 3 0 2 ...] All of them indicate timer related problems as Max pointed out. I do not have meaningful backtraces of the crashes at this time because the installed emacs-x11 seems to lack debug symbols. I'll grab the -x11 build of Ken's test release and see if these odd messages and crashes still occur. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple