X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=G0rUuel4+3q++SVYLcHjjrwB45ZDcS7AlCERTgOzOjt oSNs9W/Y2f10bIX4P3aL8goXJkEEXNrYQiuJtVZgT4tRmrWo6f6MHOqZouvDRxJ5 ISKXbP28116dJSRSeI2R8fMM7O53x5Es/AzlFHeRs6Rd/EPGw9BQfTl5d5T3QLwA = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=19PZz89Y5HJ3kMbCjYU7IVOuOL4=; b=YgxbSV27fInun94sr ZjreX/MzthZdBD4g9yMWKo11vc+rG0vJzC3gRhUSY96OUv0pnQ6QBuQMfXoEUNII BhjzbW2H7bltXryrQbR12HFQgT2g2iXLZHrve5OUSHLKoZnT8p0XlAf6VkPEK6PD Zoa8Ymf9ZPoktMhBoRsAkDFUKs= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-ig0-f182.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TqyUe5RIPfD2ZDD4/cV7u0m93xfq4/CtuJS8b9mCjqo=; b=MGnBNMeECSTB1BtkoQ5kvTGdt4Hu9GBsGioj6Bx1BIH4Leqkdhykrx/QgV1flxNiYa oD891k0tqXX2gw92Ye/RgHBdr+yFowogxnaODH4lOW2OpUwc0bvH7yc+8FRi/CYOpyjb Ma5RZfcQgJqU2itQnTcobYF47+H+uLsnp6vW25iNEcnFefaeXie0OQlGOcTECt7t6qQA MPiIkFsIrWTkFtI8WIhmohVNaJ3Ot1oIv9IOm2CeFIbLC3PK6uob1ckMxG1gT7uAmvij EQ4gYfv4AWug70USj2rY8gbokPgBDUL5JZQDqnjAv/uxQ9v4W1MCc4cwqjij/ZqulaUJ N6fw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlIA8GoZrfO2CaUYIHpduwVRBuakh6kit9KHnOfjJ2tlcalhqLf25dXJ6xqRhfAHBfTRCly X-Received: by 10.50.112.167 with SMTP id ir7mr74603911igb.27.1400159463534; Thu, 15 May 2014 06:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5374BCE5.7080609@breisch.org> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:11:01 -0400 From: "Chris J. Breisch" User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.9 (Windows/20140128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Does /etc/profile need to set MANPATH? References: <53726A51 DOT 3010105 AT breisch DOT org> <20140513192457 DOT GY2436 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <8738gc4810 DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> <20140515074942 DOT GK2436 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20140515074942.GK2436@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On May 14 18:52, Achim Gratz wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen writes: >>> Yes, this might be better discussed in cygwin-apps. I guess the setting >>> of MANPATH is mainly historical. >> I'd be happy to not set MANPATH in /etc/profile if we no longer need it >> for the standard installation. > > I'm wondering if setting MANPATH was really ever required for the old > man either. In a tcsh environment, MANPATH is not set by default. > If you install the openssl package, MANPATH is set like this (in > /etc/profile.d/openssh.csh): > > if ( ! $?MANPATH ) setenv MANPATH "" > setenv MANPATH "${MANPATH}:/usr/ssl/man" > > which results in: > > $ echo $MANPATH > :/usr/ssl/man > > I have neither problems to see the man pages in the default paths nor > problems to see the openssl man pages. Well, /etc/profile and /etc/profile.d/openssh.sh add a few more folders to MANPATH in bash. If your man pages are working, then we probably don't need MANPATH. I'm guessing though that if you unset MANPATH, you can't see the man pages in /usr/ssl/man. The new man from man-db doesn't find them either, however. But I think the proper solution to that is to add the appropriate lines to man_db.conf rather than to force something into MANPATH. OTOH, we already have the openssh.[c]sh files working, so maybe it's easier to continue with that, rather than modifying the OpenSSL package to update man_db.conf. I still need to verify that the problem I found with man-db and MANPATH is an upstream problem. I have an LFS system that I can use to test that and will do so later today. -- Chris J. Breisch -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple