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Breisch" User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.9 (Windows/20140128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Problem with "None" Group on Non-Domain Members References: <536796E4 DOT 2090009 AT breisch DOT org> <20140505135928 DOT GK30918 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53679D5C DOT 5030209 AT breisch DOT org> <20140505144745 DOT GA6993 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <5367ACED DOT 40409 AT breisch DOT org> <20140505154230 DOT GB7694 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <5367B990 DOT 8050907 AT breisch DOT org> <20140505165723 DOT GM30918 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20140505165723.GM30918@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On May 5 12:17, Chris J. Breisch wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> An strace of `chmod 400 bar' might sched some light on this issue, but I >>> have a gut feeling the underlying WIndows call will not even return an >>> error code... >> Attached. Your gut seems to be working today... > > There *is* something weird here. Look at this: > >> 151 36702 [main] chmod 5536 alloc_sd: uid 1001, gid 513, attribute 0x2190 >> 65 36767 [main] chmod 5536 cygsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: owner SID = S-1-5-21-3514886939-1786686319-3519756147-1001 (+) >> 70 36837 [main] chmod 5536 cygsid::debug_print: alloc_sd: group SID = S-1-5-21-3514886939-1786686319-3519756147-1001 (+) > > alloc_sd (the underlying function creating a security descriptor) gets > a uid 1001 and gid 513 as input, as usual. But the owner *and* group > SIDs of the file's existing security descriptor is > S-1-5-21-3514886939-1786686319-3519756147-1001, the SID of your user > account. > > Why is your user account the primary group of the file, even though > your user token definitely has "None" (513) as its primary group? > How did it get there? > I don't have a clue. You're the expert. :) The ACLs are a little different between the Microsoft Account and the regular local account. But, if anything, it's the regular one that looks odd to me. Microsoft Account: $ icacls bar bar WIN8-VM\Chris:(R,D,WDAC,WO,WA) Everyone:(Rc,S,RA) NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users:(M) Local account: $ icacls foo foo WIN8-VM\cjb:(R,D,WDAC,WO,WA) WIN8-VM\None:(Rc,S,RA) Everyone:(Rc,S,RA) Why does the local account have None permissions, and not Authenticated Users? > Is that something enforced by the "Microsoft accounts", perhaps? > > I just had a look into the Local Security Policy settings, and I can't > see any related setting. > I have no clue. If you want to throw some more debugging code into a snapshot, I'll happily test it. I'll do whatever you want, even shut up and go away. :) I should point out that all of this is with Cygwin64. From what we've discovered so far, it seems likely that I'll get the same behavior under Cygwin32. But I'll verify that tonight when I get home. -- Chris J. 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