X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=VHSNJ/Bz8oY9VBu4oplpzfj1hCTCbjrBzJB1zvsI+9UR8ymglII2S LBGM0ARmLVBbkvTiYWB9nLNfT456NOwDtNS6gSv+iy60yA6x2HD4ljpVXQXNtX2T +Tp2kV75wwEioBW5G7KsXWa8GY5+ZL2mnPSX6HcSSOyjeXPKu0kGSk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=shXGNBnNmWdL10JS5KF8kCIRVAg=; b=PZ1pDgcJ2CjtcOpkzM2AtSulVQX/ 58KZHh4/oGxqIRWqy4OlELLAEmZBLOhbALQ1+FxljcL5WxgBZqm2bqIoMsw/JwCc xqsP9s/7VmyJajOLVD96oSo6Wm2YcGrilhzP6WUc10ZUc3vgdBm6ypH93DvZz1fm 8dRoBr4gOon1IbE= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse AT dyndns DOT com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+pDewCDTzGqJp9nDjAY7Xf Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:45:21 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Screen crippled by applications using alternative screen Message-ID: <20140426224521.GA5007@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20140425173617 DOT GB346 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <20140426190711 DOT GA2529 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 08:16:00PM +0000, Dawid Ferenczy wrote: >Christopher Faylor cygwin.com> writes: > >> Perhaps you aren't a native English speaker and incorrectly took offense >> at the mild term "gobbledegook" which was not directed at you. I was >> referring to the author of the web page that you referenced. If that is >> the author of ConEmu then he really doesn't seem to have a handle on how >> things work which is rather surprising given that he's written ConEmu. >> "ANSI codes" and "Windows consoles" don't mix. > > >I have understood that. I just didn't like that attitude, because I think >Maximus5 (ConEmu developer) is a good developer and he knows what he's >doing. But it's possible, that he's wrong in this of course. > >But instead of writing that he wrote "gobbledegook", it would be nice to >describe why he's wrong. So if I can ask you, please, describe it more in >depth. Because I don't know much about how this works and it seems I have to >act as a mediator. Your expectations of my willingness to engage are not correctly calibrated. I'm not going to go out of my way to communicate with someone who has put Cygwin observations on an external website. And, I'm not going to educate you in how the Windows console works. You have plenty of places on the internet available to you for that. I already told you (and you've chosen to ignore) how you might be able to make things work. You should stop focusing on your perception of "my attitude" and just work on improving your understanding. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple