X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=YwvAlHcky7j9zKSH wYhV/tqyki3Zy134BNneswDRXNe32YkTubAO8EQLN2/HKTSmZuLu9i72XQQILoQz 1StC1bp43lUHVJR/NllZY95PeUX5wZtBrSQwZ040eVFhaMxHYC0GWGTQ1DINFi1A pohtXuXgk8hUOqF5PM/av/VvWYU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=WfEsAL6ze67rHRFqF+3wOI oXbFA=; b=PHNYIvp08Ydh6hPVQjThxIyvfElSRXrW6KSA62nGOWezGQ5zDzfhzt axja/+Qn6fK2SkYoNi5sTcAKw1EjZ4/8W50cyxokfKbqJx5xf36YHQfsxZ6Dl7eJ j7JzM06HQOnJtVaSNf5KrIO607B0Bx6yOxBhesjjjX3jYG4ium7h4= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EXECUTABLE_URI,KAM_EXEURI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: vms173021pub.verizon.net Message-id: <5351BD02.8060209@cygwin.com> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 20:02:10 -0400 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-to: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: dos telnet.exe not showing up with cygwin "ls" References: <20140418041455 DOT GA2382 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <535192CE DOT 6020909 AT cygwin DOT com> In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 04/18/2014 06:36 PM, Andy wrote: > Larry Hall (Cygwin cygwin.com> writes: >> On 04/18/2014 04:06 PM, Andy wrote: >>> The real question (I should have emphasized this in my original >>> post) is how a file can be invisible to cygwin, but not to Windows >>> explorer or the DOS shell. It's a general question that goes >>> beyond telnet. The fact that this is possible is (I think) >>> something to be aware of because it means that what you see using >>> bash could very well be a low fidelity reflection of what's in the >>> underlying Windows file system. I mean low fidelity in a relative >>> sense -- it means there's one more way for what's seen via bash to >>> differ from the underlying Windows file system. >> >> Can you clarify your question here a bit? Are you using a 32-bit >> Cygwin and confused by the fact that you don't see 64-bit stuff with >> it? Forgive me if I assumed too much about the issue you're seeing. > > It's not really a problem at present, but the file > c:\Windows\System32\telnet.exe is not visible when I use cygwin's bash to cd > to that directory and issue the ls command. I am using 32-bit cygwin. I'm > not concerned about having access to functionality, as I have both cygwin's > and Windows' telnet. I'm curious about the circumstance that allows a file > that is readable and executable by all to invisible to cygwin. Just > something to be aware of when using cygwin, that some mechanism may cause > some of the Windows file system to be invisible. Sounds to me like you installed 32-bit Cygwin on a 64-bit Windows O/S. If so, the issue you're seeing isn't Cygwin-specific. All Windows 32-bit apps would experience the same thing. If you need Cygwin to see both 32 and 64-bit apps/dlls on 64-bit Windows, install 64-bit Cygwin. -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple