X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=EZhYT1rwoO9uzgFiuTC1MTeko8DKDLRdV5+LETpAnQw cvL7ocn6gdketGvM70b6qpGzEOgoGYU340DtSjbd4ecCl+p0tCk1D/gWALoWg92y SoMsrHeGNKe7y0QexnlWV6GjQRJzyhBu+psKIUjJkh7YSoNnJ7BI9Rmn1lOezlGQ = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=40Chngg+AcjsinZzu/6J/A/TC+A=; b=VKpiHkB+v8PJygOAR VVQn/VWnsUOpa5XSTuGCSiuVAZUyk7iZygeJWNDx9UvysI0pvmk3jZeSoUi5tahr 0CVxujxlWFXJ6ArKSmLoOHE2FYn2jf9pxpocVRIBMojqAMRFDZMoeGyaN+QHLhyt 4rXvWkYKVBCKNTds5/K0e7XDn4= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com Message-ID: <53457A4C.1050104@etr-usa.com> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:50:20 -0600 From: Warren Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cygwin-L Subject: Re: We need steenking patches (Re: Cygwin kill utility...) References: <6CF2FC1279D0844C9357664DC5A08BA2464FF5 AT MLBXV06 DOT nih DOT gov> <5F8AAC04F9616747BC4CC0E803D5907D0C8B85C2 AT MLBXv04 DOT nih DOT gov> <20140408152118 DOT GB4595 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <5344236E DOT 8020503 AT aol DOT com> <20140408164902 DOT GD5812 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <5F8AAC04F9616747BC4CC0E803D5907D0C8B89AF AT MLBXv04 DOT nih DOT gov> <20140408181301 DOT GD2731 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <20140409032833 DOT GA2351 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <20140409055117 DOT GA1878 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 4/9/2014 08:55, Steven Penny wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > I see now you have Stockholm Syndrome with CVS. CVS sucks. No new project should be started on CVS today. HOWEVER: If you think web code repository searching and a public bug tracker are primary barriers to contribution, you aren't being honest with yourself. They are nice, but not necessary. Neither is it necessary to switch everything off of a custom CVS system onto Github in order for Cygwin to succeed. I give you proof by existence: ta daaa! I say all of this as one who has expressed a wish for Cygwin to move to a better VCS at least once in the past; probably more than once. The need to use CVS did not stop me from contributing a few small patches over the years. It didn't even present a serious impediment. Further, I managed to escape the experience without any PTSD. So yeah, it would be nice if Cygwin were on a modern VCS. Personally, I'd like to see it on Fossil, since that has a built-in wiki and bug tracker. Plus, it's worlds simpler than Git, and its model matches that of the Cygwin development structure better. It would *also* be nice if you scraped up some fortitude tried working with Cygwin as you find it, instead of putting preconditions on others before you can start contributing. It really is not that hard. > That is sad. First world problem. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple