X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=XrZDpw8YqtAADi093wqvzzwcLwhIWy1X6aWk+kuwMr6Txk8tp5LVy 1ki26daaSlUpxf72xm0tky62xCrK3VP62tMAlfH+pQSnjNF+PbBwcq66pdZsul4N Fd4pznRjTRBavDgP99LcCNORCnCWt6VO5yXcljkwGITCUbTbdDaf+g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=vfEuqh3p3clDfKL5+UlXD64fJfk=; b=KzFyWMKh7ZYESPSwO/GI52BdLUR7 8nW0ijxc/0xmDzlCygiKpCxMj0pBhqKMjj6ZgzZYNRYXvuZlWGvg+o2rPkeE1tpF YmbfG7x2Pyc7QaNrwaTiEsTiORg83OqKE3fRFAg2KZI1RLXhF/DQc/NvxafoOX9D RfxWo0DRyIHWTmc= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:53:07 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: With latest snapshot, emacs is very slow to start under X11 Message-ID: <20140316115307.GC400@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <532325A5 DOT 5020103 AT cornell DOT edu> <53232E30 DOT 3080801 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140314164243 DOT GD2355 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53234E31 DOT 8030805 AT cornell DOT edu> <20140314201916 DOT GG2355 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <53248149 DOT 2000007 AT cornell DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53248149.2000007@cornell.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 15 12:35, Ken Brown wrote: > On 3/14/2014 4:19 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >The problem is this. The memory addresses given in the straces or in > >the below stackdump don't make any sense to me, because I don't have > >your DLL. For clarity it would be helpful to run > > > > addr2line -e cygwin1.dbg [address...] > > > >so the addresses (the ones starting with 0x0018 at least) can be > >conveniently connected to source lines. >=20 > Sorry, I meant to say that the straces were made from > cygwin-1.7.28-2 ("good DLL") and the 2014-03-10 snapshot ("bad > DLL"). The addresses of the exceptions in the straces all point to > thread.cc:144. I can't do anything with the stackdump below > because, as I said, I don't know which DLL I was using when the > crash occurred. All I know is that it was from one of the > snapshots, because it happened while I was bisecting. >=20 > I'll keep testing and see if I can get another stackdump. Thanks. What makes me wonder is the long time emacs is waiting for dbus. This doesn't make sense in terms of exception handling. It sounds a bit as if it's *really* waiting for some reason and the question is, what exactly is it waiting for (socket timeout?) and why didn't it wait before? > >>These three facts suggest that the problem might have something to do w= ith how Cygwin handles an exception that occurs when emacs (or Glib) tries = to start a dbus daemon and the latter crashes. But I'm just guessing. > > > >But why does it crash in the first place? >=20 > I have no idea. I'll see if I can figure anything out. That would be incredibly helpful. There is a chance that the old exception handling didn't work as expected and therefore covered something under the hood. > >Using the SEH filter is, strictly speaking, the right thing to do. The > >vectored exception handler is just an ugly workaround in comparison. > >Therefore it's quite the bummer that emacs or dbus or whatever, seems > >to choke on that. I'm not familiar enough with exception handling so > >I can't guarantee that I find a solution which is working in all cases. > >I was glad enough when Kai Tietz (our Mingw64 maintainer) pointed out > >the SEH filter solution used Mingw64. I'm using it in exactly the > >same way as Mingw64 is using it :( > > > >Why is it always emacs? Vim works fine... >=20 > Sorry. Nah, never mind. I'm just frustrated, is all. Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTJZCjAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+ggncP/07uIVpOShAEEZ+UcqKn539q 8U6FFEFVmJubzD1rKN9sdPXVmTJ5c5OzfAVsR3gEkesZ/pLlheTZK3CGTbm/anLs tPaGZwHDgSRocbkExJ+h7Th6kLnuacWF684sxnjM5brPBwlbt1c9NvsIYSY5M14B qb1FBP6z+maYRwq2RHEQo5pY3KdGqp/HD+7mPQ9miOEPkDFNIaD3AiUc3UAJVkqn d8YibOVTET+oq0V+AnGzrOkifp+Iu2vxLvzcYAiM41c8Rk+UaPuDvRnoWmiLWn/R Y2YwEAqRDIK89uRWQ7HUsngnyePJYWQNIz//3ObnUXHJloFOWS879D0Ww8LIlxVd FpjRTuOmBKMtjsX86OX3XwG34jmQl32EJg04hm29S9c60sEQSZxXEysC2oAZJq34 OTmwGzg66tgNxWAdKgxt/HO0KMQrH5oM9NLojK8fNeGyQpfrBNzZPFIkfIGyihkP K3AM7+Gj+IOzE1/LCAxtoUt+K94vaKLEyCheTQwbKhv9IvI5tr4vtTGA6TzLCmwZ NBsvxCXgMuypO1cF7xc+77UX5WM9WLjzLnXO4OEDlJuNwcXhmgVo+7ymt9d1gfcX NDR/wgXZMdAP/Q85ewiaeNWeLXhjjbiRRAi0BdzLK0ZJBS5P3tMw40GJhCUrIjvA DelvkVos5X785OS++9qY =hJdG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv--