X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=xYWBOHBgnuxmw05GG8QHEhNG/otZ44my266i/t0Iga1xv48pahSn6 wBt7FltJP/8fIubw5UwgP3aYq6zruEFSRuvp6Tl7t2KUV++csO/YjWjjr27ZLRen W47/GLdI0KxR9cax5LgV0FbpxdXT8JuySqy0LOb56d47ksuxxlQ/LY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=tfV0t9DnrBKD0YBz3qdGmB9CFAs=; b=m7ip4wWFa0KWtMhUr3xdXwtfJvRn B/M5dvssimVlWkHC7UtzED7kQ2yK60pIfnboxXd/kSeNyTmt3W3F3Ci7Y347PhIn Th+9H7nElpHkF8oZUDXtxnfWG8MXAXLpi9GDEqiwzsBt0sT/hYAdbKAUY9WfhwGA o3XozKyIx6pcN7E= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:09:46 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Please stop sending email to ... Message-ID: <20140312120946.GK8066@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20140311212550 DOT GA2208 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <1394581356734-107040 DOT post AT n5 DOT nabble DOT com> <20140312015352 DOT GB2283 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <1382539932 DOT 20140312154311 AT yandex DOT ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="451BZW+OUuJBCAYj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1382539932.20140312154311@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) --451BZW+OUuJBCAYj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 12 15:43, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, Christopher Faylor! >=20 > >>> I know that this is a pointless exercise but I'll say it anyway: peop= le > >>> who think that they can have a private chat with Corinna or Larry by > >>> sending email to what seem to be their private email addresses will j= ust > >>> show up in the spam trap, possibly even causing spamassassin to think > >>> that they are a spammer. > >>>=20 > >>> We mention in multiple places that cygwin-related issues should go to > >>> this list. So, please don't bother trying to send private email unle= ss > >>> you've been specifically asked to do so. You'll also be doing me a > >>> favor because I won't have to spend time cleaning out the spam traps. > >> > >>Well, here goes nothing.=20 > >> > >>I am happy to admit that I'm one of those persons. The problem is > >>exactly that what you claim we "should do" versus what is actually > >>possible to do. If any of the list maintainers had actually bothered > >>to try to register to these email lists, you would probably have found > >>out that your spam filters are set so high, that it is impossible for > >>normal people to even register to these lists! >=20 > > FYI, The Cygwin list has 1212 subscribers with 89 new joiners since > > January 1. I'm the "list maintainer" and I'm obviously registered. > > The same software that handles Cygwin also handles gcc.gnu.org and > > sourceware.org. There are many other mailing lists under those > > domains, and some of them have even more subscribers. >=20 > The point was, it's nowhere mentioned, who to contact in case of list iss= ues. > Not in list mail headers, neither on list's mailman web page. > I've had multiple mails blocked for containing "foreign language" (how c= an I > help? It's Microsoft smarts to translate group names to make everyone > unhappy), and I multiple times tried to find the address to appeal to. To= no > avail. > Yes, I vaguely recalled, that there supposed to be "-owner" address, > but it's only my poor memory. How can I trust her without confirmation? On the other hand, the "postmaster" account exists everywhere... Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --451BZW+OUuJBCAYj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTIE6KAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+gCPAP/2AG2xprHv1SUlNC2dehMdJE 4h8ufiV4KTprAxLdbRoqxYcVFUNxSajX6NcZA0Ov3rFMHRe0/iWfSFvxOCfjMaNT c48Bnd9EfwqJ+dHMWurcqRZ5QfLXORR4CIbsmIIwLWwujmEfchTxqyWPcgMSmr8n pFIu03uLsX2k4Sc9KlaFoRBSHBRl8d8tRfn+x10bk/keddbKcNampkPLKq90Yk2O vIxbyMuU+fdlxfvhUUMoZsvseAYIHDcQ2vdslJuHsgHkpPwazLbP239szDT3iSer BgS85GSDY8dZOszb72A3sI2E9LRP2BAImEw/4Bx/9LyUDaMHhEjVnBASM9XNZmUI 62ZFLd12wmgvFGs3NYMFtwpc0bituhv8+Y1cCwu0ucrb5tpuwgCVsQaQt1TmXSqS /sKbAknMsaFga9feR75mWv+O8prs8QumVd7m3o4Yan3aOjnNe9P+2DmGyPgpY4+k T96LBHUF0n0Eko1kqUOQaQHFuLSv32fQW/JfH29eh3X2Eh0mica8CJyeDhXBN7RS i7Av1yfGgt0zlFYv3h2QpHkkNYD0MeJzgqkAhS6AtcTY3Uq3rW+qcsuh1efoME/z bI2VvwUSk7jBbFiXHGHurhRhW4Oibz6UYgJS/0cpvP1Xn5rxqU1++Bk/faTSC0jt lj15dqmZ803YApOv4H/0 =Dwt9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --451BZW+OUuJBCAYj--