X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=cjNrxXv9jObjC1nYJ4xI/dyp8S/iBli1OKiGaW4tp7i15Q7FIWGR1 NjWmOjo8xlHdf195TLkH8+SVX60wfbtksnSzcBsvSJbCDR0z05j7R7siP/xrUd6P N0JIY9GFiCAeQE2qMgw7riSIiOQajWsuAq/rra7N1JOOY1HnWv4Q3s= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=sbD3rOoWU92hi2axFaVQC0txmM4=; b=xrmIvP0xUgdEFqZGiCbJ/++GFjnX dA+SdzigIk+gtIMqv1t5M56dHe/JtKTFCNBNAzgxb1/IV17W+0594Fjd7FTey0Df FoJTfDuacSQXPghZrlNcC5FYWu7bIRH27KCxc63SG+nERcm82UcRgFAMS0JBFesl Q/OhM2woLGGnaNQ= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 17:47:21 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin Message-ID: <20140305164721.GB2856@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20140228210804 DOT GE2381 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20140303092114 DOT GA26619 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <1686957830 DOT 20140303195207 AT yandex DOT ru> <53152031 DOT 3000208 AT etr-usa DOT com> <397967999 DOT 20140304053603 AT yandex DOT ru> <53155F96 DOT 3060400 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20140304080727 DOT GC7236 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <5317440D DOT 4060000 AT etr-usa DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5317440D.4060000@etr-usa.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 5 08:34, Warren Young wrote: > On 3/4/2014 01:07, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Mar 3 22:07, Warren Young wrote: > >> > >>You have to measure it to find out. > > > >I was inclined to go with Andrey's suggestion for simplicity. What's > >yours? >=20 > Science! >=20 > Survey actual lookup times, and make a statistical determination > from that. e.g. +3 sigma[1] above the normal to capture > 99% of > the Cygwin user base, or +6 sigma to reduce outliers to the order of > 2 ppm. >=20 > To collect the data, instrument the DLL and report anonymous > statistics back to cygwin.com if the user opts in via setup.exe. >=20 > Rather than report back continually, just keep a model of the lookup > time[2], and report the current lookup time average on each > setup.exe run, such as in the HTTP request for the mirror list: >=20 > GET /mirrors.lst?adluavg=3D123 >=20 > That is, setup.exe is reporting that the typical AD lookup time at > this site is currently 123 ms. >=20 > Note that you don't have to write a CGI program to accomplish this. > Apache will continue to serve static mirror.lst files for you with > the GET parameter.[3] It will dutifully log each query to > access_log, and you can dig the reported lookup time values out of > the file when you want to compile your statistics. >=20 > When calculating statistics, use only the latest value for each > reporting IP, so that sites that update Cygwin more often don't skew > the results. >=20 > The default timeout should be baked into the DLL, but overridable in > nsswitch.conf, with ms resolution. You're kidding, aren't you? Apart from that, ms are not useful since LDAP_OPT_TIMELIMIT used for ldap_bind_s only takes values in 1 second resolution. 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