X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=hKyrIKEeybqof0N5 aCdGL9uBYekZXB8bTaQZ7EQRlGr3vJjklgoEJt9Bjnm9UdIQWc6bh5MJKtqxh9mU iudz/549i4IrQJYbREqd5whRNEtFGquOHYg59e3cVnwp9MhoNOtEVTwuYPvECk7X 1kuYJZAz3qAjmpgXO4Va3AN2Xs0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=BVUuK2k5FFlXzsJU6mlGfm me/QY=; b=paW6oXX96i0ySuQZd9rQ4rmtvz1CZVqtwHZw+pzzBTV8LIoC1cOkqG uScZhdIMJzULZIKHbq9qZIgEvIPFZtePafszX874+nPHblauGWJDHAft3H6vxj7u H5qOAex+PRkRJu2UfLuAOQGiN+9IUmVutEtimGzq2R/Eb96JOlu3o= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: smtpback.ht-systems.ru Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:52:07 +0400 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <1686957830.20140303195207@yandex.ru> To: Corinna Vinschen Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin In-Reply-To: <20140303092114.GA26619@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20140227094951 DOT GD2246 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20140227134632 DOT GG2246 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <765945729 DOT 20140228031219 AT yandex DOT ru> <20140228120748 DOT GN2246 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <87y50vc910 DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> <20140228201047 DOT GC2381 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20140228210804 DOT GE2381 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20140303092114 DOT GA26619 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! > No, this is not mintty's fault. You have to understand that the > request for information from the DC is called before the actual > application had any chance to initialize, This happens before > the application has, in fact, been called from the Cygwin DLL. > Therefore, if the three seconds are a burden, there are three choices > going forward: > - We reduce the timeout to 1 second in general, which could be a problem > when utilizing a slow VPN conncetion to the DC, > - We allow the user to specify a timeout value and set the default to > 1 second. > - We stick to the 3 seconds and users should switch to files (/etc/passwd > /etc/group) when being offline from their DC. > I'm really not sure what the best way is, I guess we as a community have > to dice this out somehow. I'd say it again, "sane defaults are better, than alot of options". 1 second to CONNECT to domain server is more than enough time under normal circumstances (for comparison, default DNS _roundtrip_ timeout is 2 seconds, that for a whole conversation sequence). Leave the connect timeout short, and if certain users are unable to cope with slow connections to their domain controllers, they can use less pre-caching, or switch to local files to speed up uid/gid resolution. -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdaemon AT yandex DOT ru) 03.03.2014, <18:40> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple