X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=gZcDwxREPrqUfcC8hPQKv7Ac4Hgzv Xkn2EB0UCZtbYRrC7ptDuIotEb8XZMFUA/5KaRF+0blTwmMxOd8FA0DO0abveY5y ocVyu8RlyQRDoJcUTnVnM6fO4iSDkI6ZWVSVAuTEVEvwIE1XWF+r9ThBZFzkiilX JQPziElMUdk39A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; s=default; bh=VS0ownSFOhGLjZUlrgkBbvhTAOw=; b=r7Q OzhCBQIsMSeXeNBduoDXh5mc5wcBeXpEhF92oykhtdbn2r4xqkedWPC6hT+HByD+ bAuB/5e+oP+cxcnCn09F8KF9D1FwVaU1Hck9kSlxwJOiZSyOGpcvBN4OmP7aoKcM yDWtcY5Ao4OdT7Q115oV/WCPUZtkhRWfQ2Rs5Mms= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-oa0-f51.google.com X-Received: by 10.60.63.242 with SMTP id j18mr4276966oes.33.1390969594718; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:26:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ilja Umov Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:25:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Cygwin installer could be much more better To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, there is a certainly a good historical reason why cygwin installer has so many options. But now one-click installers are so common (Google Chrome is the best example), it may look rather scary, especially for beginners. I did browse a bit though cygwin source code and well, I'm not so great at C++, that I could help in any meaningful way. Though I did make a script that downloads and extract list of cygwin packages (Python>=3.3, because of `.xz` files): https://github.com/iljau/cyg_fetcher/blob/master/fetch_package_list.py Didn't quite get to installation part, yet. Based on my cygwin usage (installing and updating it on multiple machines) and during process of writing above script I discovered following: 1) Usually I want to "Install from Internet" 2) Usually "C:\cygwin" is where I want to install it for "All Users". 3) "Local Package Directory" could be just environment variable %TMP% or %TEMP%. (Still don't understand difference) 4) Usually "Direct connection" is good. 5) The most reliable mirror is (and the only one that supports https): https://mirrors.kernel.org/sourceware/cygwin/ 6) Usually I dont want to "Create Icons", especially after update. So there are multiple possibilities to provide reasonable defaults and spare users from confusion. That's probably why MSYS2 is being developed: https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Building/Preparation/Windows/MSYS2 Thank you for your attention. -- Ilja Umov https://iljau.me -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple