X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=aHF FJrRU/wWqmRwAwrguZY7mmruHL/3rY6xa3QvlE8RC8ZvevRxl3WZoC8/6/edowgR kVOtaiVNxLhZZE4PN1DFp1CI7B+V2S8B4QnmCBWzROujFtiD/62AuSBin1kZtkTw x0TaUcx9UYVY7dMURTx/X8/4jYjP8e6wQWfalsbI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=Ye948U5xE Ifz4c20G3V6cBHNAew=; b=DEnL3lpf++oN1q607DaceHBPnaI6OaSWtVueo+6Qv TD0Now7531C1EXzwEr8p+yVvLtmyV6IH0JMejPf1WFB+W5Uf0H/0Y//j+gF9iLNW 5qwKWJTvBFvDvkZsKtGxSq+EnqcErAx+Dm1l5B95Bj66cycCgM33JN9guz4cmeBw FI= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com Message-ID: <52DF0B86.5030402@etr-usa.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:30 -0700 From: Warren Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cygwin-L Subject: Reduce noise in dependency declaration during uninstall in setup.exe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes When attempting to uninstall packages with setup.exe, you can get messages like this in the dependency resolution step: gvfs (1.16.4-1) GNOME virtual filesystem Required by: dconf-service So, you go back a screen, tell setup.exe to uninstall dconf-service, too, but get the same message when you try to move forward again. What's happening here is that something *else* wants dconf-service. By that logic, gvfs is still required. setup.exe is correct here, but it is not being helpful. I propose that the code that generates this message first check whether all packages named in the block are scheduled for removal. If so, either don't insert that block into the text box, or insert it at the end. The idea is that you want the first such block in the text box to be something the user can actually do something about. I've run into this after installing everything yesterday for my "size of Cygwin" research project. Now I'm trying to remove most of that piece by piece, but I keep getting tangled in dependency webs. If you doubt the value of this idea, consider the following setup.exe output. Which string is it telling me to pull next? dbus (1.6.16-1) Freedesktop message bus system Required by: avahi, libdbus1_3, dconf-service dconf-service (0.16.1-1) GNOME configuration system Required by: libgtk3_0 gcr (3.8.2-1) GNOME cryptography framework Required by: gnome-keyring girepository-GLib2.0 (1.36.0-1) GLib GObjectIntrospection data Required by: python-gi glib2.0-networking (2.36.2-1) GIO networking modules Required by: libsoup2.4_1 gnome-icon-theme (3.8.3-1) GNOME desktop icon theme Required by: libgtk2.0_0, libgtk3_0 gnome-keyring (3.8.2-1) GNOME Desktop password management system Required by: libsecret1_0 gsettings-desktop-schemas (3.8.2-1) GNOME desktop GSettings schemas Required by: libglib2.0_0 gtk-update-icon-cache (3.8.8-1) GTK+ icon theme cache utility Required by: libgtk2.0_0, libgtk3_0 gvfs (1.16.4-1) GNOME virtual filesystem Required by: dconf-service libavahi-glib1 (0.6.31-2) MDNS/DNS_SD/Zeroconf implementation (GLib runtime) Required by: gvfs libcroco0.6_3 (0.6.8-1) GNOME CSS parser library (runtime) Required by: librsvg2_2 libdbus-glib_1_2 (0.100-1) FreeDesktop application message bus (GLib bindings) Required by: python-dbus libgdk_pixbuf2.0-devel (2.28.2-1) GNOME image loading library (development) Required by: libgtk2.0-devel, libgtk3-devel libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 (2.28.2-1) GNOME image loading library (runtime) Required by: gvim, libgcr3_1, libmng-contrib, qiv, rxvt-unicode-X, libgtk2.0_0, libgtk3_0, librsvg2_2, gtk-update-icon-cache, libgdk_pixbuf2.0-devel libgirepository1.0_1 (1.36.0-1) GObject Introspection library (runtime) Required by: python-gi libglib1.2-devel (1.2.10-12) GNOME 1.x C function library Required by: xdelta-devel libglib1.2_0 (1.2.10-12) GNOME 1.x C function library Required by: libxdelta2, xdelta, libgtk1.2_0, libglib1.2-devel libglib2.0-devel (2.36.4-4) GNOME core C function library (development) Required by: libatk-bridge2.0-devel, libatk1.0-devel, libatspi-devel, libcairo-devel, libgck1-devel, libgcr3-devel, libgsf1-devel, libharfbuzz-devel, libpango1.0-devel, libsoup2.4-devel, libvala0.20-devel, libgtk2.0-devel, libgtk3-devel, libgdk_pixbuf2.0-devel libglib2.0_0 (2.36.4-4) GNOME core C function library (runtime) Required by: R, amanda, at-spi2-core, desktop-file-utils, enchant, gamin, gnuplot, gvim, harfbuzz, irssi, libatk-bridge2.0_0, libatk1.0_0, libatspi0, libcairo2, libenchant-devel, libenchant1, libgailutil18, libgailutil3_0, libgck1_0, libgcr3_1, libgsf1_114, libharfbuzz0, libmng-contrib, libpango1.0_0, libsoup2.4_1, libvala0.20_0, mc, qiv, shared-mime-info, syslog-ng, libMagickCore5, libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0, libgtk2.0_0, libglib2.0-devel, libgtk3_0, glib2.0-networking, python-dbus, librsvg2_2, gsettings-desktop-schemas, gtk-update-icon-cache, libgdk_pixbuf2.0-devel, dconf-service, libdbus-glib_1_2, python-gi, python-gobject, libcroco0.6_3, gvfs, libgirepository1.0_1, girepository-GLib2.0, libavahi-glib1, libsecret1_0, libsoup-gnome2.4_1, gnome-keyring, gcr libgtk1.2_0 (1.2.10-12) Gimp Toolkit GUI library (version 1.2) Required by: singular-surf libgtk2.0-devel (2.24.22-1) GTK+ X11 GUI toolkit (development) Required by: libgailutil-devel libgtk2.0_0 (2.24.22-1) GTK+ X11 GUI toolkit (runtime) Required by: gvim, libgailutil18, libmng-contrib, qiv, libgtk2.0-devel libgtk3-devel (3.8.8-1) GTK+ X11 GUI toolkit (development) Required by: libgailutil3-devel, libgcr3-devel libgtk3_0 (3.8.8-1) GTK+ X11 GUI toolkit (runtime) Required by: libgailutil3_0, libgcr3_1, libgtk3-devel, gvfs, gnome-keyring, gcr libMagick-devel (6.7.6.3-3) Image manipulation software suite (development) Required by: libautotrace-devel, pstoedit-devel libMagickCore5 (6.7.6.3-3) Image manipulation software suite (runtime) Required by: ImageMagick, libautotrace3, libpstoedit0, perl-Image-Magick, libMagick-devel libpulse0 (2.1-1) PulseAudio client library Required by: libcanberra0 librsvg2_2 (2.36.4-1) GNOME Scalable Vector Graphics library (runtime) Required by: libMagickCore5 libsecret1_0 (0.15-1) GObject secrets client library Required by: gvfs libsoup-gnome2.4_1 (2.42.3.1-1) GNOME HTTP library Required by: gvfs python-dbus (1.2.0-1) Python dbus bindings Required by: python-avahi python-gi (3.8.3-1) Python GObject Introspection bindings Required by: python-dbus python-gi-common (3.8.3-1) Python GObject Introspection bindings Required by: python-gi python-gobject (2.28.6-5) Python GLib/GObject/GIO bindings Required by: python-dbus Most of these packages are actually scheduled for uninstallation at this point. My process so far has been to scan through the list looking for names that have appeared since the last attempt, on the theory that they're naming packages farther up the dependency graph. Unraveling cloth by pulling strings isn't the right metaphor. No, it's more like playing Jenga against an evil robot. I'm about to give up, install Cygwin to a new directory, then try and merge in my old configuration. (/home, /usr/local, /etc... ) -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple