X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=Dz9 lnzC37MbDNwxz3q0qa/5hbGdLpNKsNgDhpAgkAhMaxzfnWC/hlFyax/MvbdTM/Vf 2o1mBaZXrBCvh6YTHXz9q7NGcbX2wDh/qKG9Zbn2+XWQpA4iw1chDCtRrw1wmWT8 eQP+hGghu/EgutgpbwUtQtUSkrpnvKF23TFu3G+0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=w05uQ8SL7 54p5GNvMmKd7rfFHnY=; b=NWMEy5yCjPxR/KgRWsIIPkseJyiXcoNSftTIHo1cf yPMou5IsGwSTu7SQ2UY3HN/tiTR68osmLRKc2LzdEntEJDbdgb+b1wSnTWGMMHue nCVShqUuIFZr2T1GtnVKA48P+2XDKihmdtmuIk2eDwFBIi1BrbIYVq86XGkNarFS Rc= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-ig0-f171.google.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UMUSKmdAH6pv54VIBBKHHkvHb10qnkV7y2VoyaOcfE8=; b=FneM8n9hBcT5ZY/GetEkJSIxhEPD2J3F5bjYZKChGzTh5fLp5SPnhkcoOPDDI1x3go 41BoiVYOt9SBCiKeNQpef3y7L9TjpEv8Lu52MsaYvCTKJFEEblg6LsdYRNGp+rAoBsda x2em4FzJqwL/Ka1ZjRjRGj3ndYGpEQpJFLfEjiBPDtup8+9BdqfdTUl3acv9G5+pazHI Zibwrfe7MeY430hIlvEMQ1DLggDdYLPyeAO+/wSb4YvdIMIE8hCYJYm1dL0Y43TcW9+a DcUzu1gAkqyVGSr6xPEuLBG4D1d78ofKAS7QaiR+0eNf012UUDw5uF4jj3JXdwl5fLUa a0eg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlClPZ4aRG2T1IgIPwXLLuOspa92c2yPxsXo/oD3gDkiz5NSO7+LKKaCsIDos9V3ePn63x/ X-Received: by 10.50.120.105 with SMTP id lb9mr30345330igb.22.1389161904411; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:18:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52CCEDAC.60609@whitelancer.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 01:18:20 -0500 From: John Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Windows 8 group won't respect /etc/passwd or /etc/group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I've been struggling with an issue trying to figure out why Windows 8.1 won't seem to respect the trick of setting your /etc/password to use a default group such as users instead of 'none'. There are a few other discussions on this board around changing the group to "Users" and modifying the /etc/passwd to have a default group. The issue I am stumped over is that if I create a file using windows explorer (or anything else outside of cygwin), when I go to ls the file in cygwin, the group is coming back as none. Well, technically it's coming back as 4294967295. (64 bit cygwin) Even stranger, I can change the file manually with a chgrp Users and it looks and acts fine, but if I go to edit the file with notepad or any other external application, the group gets reset back to 4294967295. I am trying to isolate it, thinking maybe it's something to do with the permissions of the parent folders, but I'm seeing this behavior all over the machine -- in My Documents, in Windows, in a blank test folder. I've tried removing some groups even, thinking maybe there was some weird inheritance going on, but haven't had much luck. Does anyone have any ideas? This is driving me batty. I even tried going back to cygwin 32, but it exhibits the same issue -- just using the "None" group instead of "???????????" group. Thanks. -John -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple