X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:to:subject; q=dns; s= default; b=fiPpUHKKzoQ36mi8eyZ5KfqyVY4MzvOrqCUBsbkP5NG7h1E07aAeE sNFsKyfEhtQOeD2CXvQERJj+JtYAc3VT9+niHQW5C0QWm/Qga+4qV7zOQFUsEcNY LVv6V7vienO80TWicAQQHmIP5ZF7+M1p1z87r+MhrycUhhsSyFvK9o= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:to:subject; s= default; bh=8OgNodLyrAzWMXec+XXO8MaZxlg=; b=BvzBYIlMuSgkmSYlSGYt lWEsUcxUBPjb755dpgh2A1AOJV7s8BlJibuf0YbgVnPuOfV7LebZlPaZeBzAV3Iq zaTO+95i1/LVoWETM1o8y8r9mmXI+//T30vlm6DQz8pL9KKhLSzR8X+VUbRgjARv 70VUHwQ48E7E/JdaKEwClVM= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_MANY_HDRS_LCASE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: vms173007pub.verizon.net From: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-id: <21093.42532.550364.992074@consult.pretender> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:09:40 -0400 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: ps weirdness... X-IsSubscribed: yes When I type 'ps', I get as expected the following processes: PID PPID PGID WINPID TTY UID STIME COMMAND 18036 3188 18036 17792 pty0 1001 16:54:33 /usr/bin/ps 3188 1688 3188 3212 pty0 1001 06:59:16 /usr/bin/bash 1688 1 1688 1688 ? 1001 06:59:15 /usr/bin/mintty 2392 1 2392 2392 ? 1001 11:00:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent When I type 'ps | grep bash', about 2/3 of the time, I get: 3188 1688 3188 3212 pty0 1001 06:59:16 /usr/bin/bash HOWEVER, about 1/3 of the time, I get: 16832 3188 17792 16832 pty0 1001 16:56:44 /usr/bin/bash 3188 1688 3188 3212 pty0 1001 06:59:16 /usr/bin/bash And there is no bash process launched in the interim. Moreover, this second PID jumps around (both up and down) wildly rather than being constant or even relatively sequential. In such cases, ps -W, similarly generates 2 bash processes: 3188 1688 3188 3212 pty0 1001 06:59:16 /usr/bin/bash 16460 0 0 16460 pty0 1001 17:44:29 C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe Even more interesting, when I type 'ps | grep ssh-agent', about 2/3 of the time, I get: 2392 1 2392 2392 ? 1001 11:00:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent HOWEVER, about 1/3 of the time, I get: 2392 1 2392 2392 ? 1001 11:00:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent 19176 0 0 19176 pty0 1001 Dec 31 /usr/bin/ssh-agent This makes no sense, since I rebooted the machine less than 24 hours ago (and the date is correct). Again the PID jumps around wildly though here (as opposed to the bash case), the stime remains stuck on Dec 31, whereas in the 'grep bash' case the stime seems to correspond to the time the 'ps' command is run. Interestingly, in the 'grep ssh-agent' case, 'ps -W | grep ssh-agent', never seems to generate a spurious 2nd process (despite dozens of trials). Note that grepping for mintty, gives the same behavior as for 'ssh-agent' -- including the spurious Dec 31 date. So, what is going on here with ps (inconsistently) generating "phanton" processes? Note: I am running the latest 17.25 x86-64 under Win7 on an Intel i5. Jeff -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple