X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=VM PESphkPGenkPnyTVJL/VVY9COQM23u+m8EcFbIVvOrLAcVM0SDEAIHPn018bG15/ PI2r3sDoOyW5TduUGzZJ8K1+yEOQN1SEbZkcMqPKSwnAVQKWZmP5WP2zw9a3847G ub+HqpAnkqTNiDNUa0hR0MjyrT2GJZkmq5gBCx9f4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; s=default; bh=GVZ6RZRB J+ijP2xBaOK0hqpEqHo=; b=w7VPTcz8dA5zZH3rNkoebgDzHbtGL8/YD1uSCcdG DXQr0gQXYK1mNTHnx2Dq1l/Kd6nJ5+yNl0h9M8vHdbFzcweHPAIAf9WY/4Q77MkW OmHtx39RNQqd9lNEs3wQj05F86xRezorAP130YCIeiI2X5jDzEDqjYRacOOXijKa FBY= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.12.80 with SMTP id w16mr496564wib.47.1376059343186; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:42:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5203E3D9.2090509@etr-usa.com> References: <5202BDED DOT 9030801 AT cygwin DOT com> <20130808070854 DOT GA19486 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <1326593020 DOT 20130808150801 AT mtu-net DOT ru> <5203E3D9 DOT 2090509 AT etr-usa DOT com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:42:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin From: Paul Allen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/8/2013 05:08, Andrey Repin wrote: >> >> >> Though, I fail to see, how Cygwin telnet is different from, say PuTTY. Or >> native Windows telnet. > > > Windows 8 doesn't come with telnet.exe installed by default, and when you install it from > Programs and Features, it's invisible to Cygwin 32, apparently due to the SxS madness. Have you tried sysnative in case installing telnet gives you a 32-bit version as well as a 64-bit one? > Windows' telnet.exe doesn't even run particularly well within cmd.exe. Telnetting to a local web > server here, it didn't do local echo properly, so I couldn't see whether I'd typed "GET / > HTTP1.0" correctly. Different versions of Windows have come with one of two telnets. Early and late versions came with the white-on-black, no-local-echo you have. The others came with black-on-white, with-local-echo, window-closes-when-connection-closes. IIRC, the one that closed when the connection closed was dropped from Windows prior to HTTP persistent connections being widely supported, so was never useful for diagnosing HTTP. Basically, Windows telnet (both versions) is proof that MIC. Microsoft Is Crap. -- Paul -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple