X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=iHigOBCl7GOgpugwyT4zoojMNZ6EJrVz7cLoiRZtuGAJtk/W6U8gh 7jVXR1fggQXIi++IsnV1YcL/JfkC4o9r8aPOtqhgx3tKbRDQlyrBWGnAZrzk8Jzg 6swCovR4J+cMXIFDhlO4Yr3aQy00K6pOyN+WHJyTDBtjXCP1QZiL1w= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=nlSeRXhLWWEFj/IrqlTXZNR/deo=; b=BjszjULM+2qcGtdCAv/MU5hGW5yu oHZvS8hVSy/EHxkKXN3kIrdZoBlqrSUiOeaSNtPYWyt4RBohy8gcPX7fEaFnQ024 Qy37F8ytVTpXqwN1XJafNHBB7L7d3HqgYzm1NDi3iCd0jBp9iV93QuWAxZIfyjzZ b3WQEVFtA8oyCGo= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:31:05 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Case sensitive filenames for non-NTFS filesystems Message-ID: <20130802083105.GC18054@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <51FB56D0 DOT 4040609 AT shaddybaddah DOT name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51FB56D0.4040609@shaddybaddah.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Aug 2 16:50, Shaddy Baddah wrote: > Hi, > > As per: > > http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-casesensitive > > Cygwin act on filenames on NTFS in with case preservation/sensitivity. Correction, not only NTFS. Here's the source code comment: /* Case sensitivity is supported if FILE_CASE_SENSITIVE_SEARCH is set, except on Samba which handles Windows clients case insensitive. NFS doesn't set the FILE_CASE_SENSITIVE_SEARCH flag but is case sensitive. UDF on NT 5.x is broken (at least) in terms of case sensitivity. The UDF driver reports the FILE_CASE_SENSITIVE_SEARCH capability but: - Opening the root directory for query seems to work at first, but the filenames in the directory listing are mutilated. - When trying to open a file or directory case sensitive, the file appears to be non-existant. */ > As this was a feature configured in the Windows kernel, the pre-existing > limitation whereby the same case sensitivity was not available for FAT32 > was an understandable compromise. > > Unfortunately, in providing EXFAT, Microsoft has not seen fit to carry > over the same handling in the kernel as it does in NTFS. ExFAT is based on FAT/FAT32, so it's understandable. I don't have ExFAT available. Assuming your ExFAT drive is drive X:, can you please show me the output of /usr/lib/csih/getVolInfo.exe /cygdrive/x If it returns different values than FAT, it might be worth to handle specificially in Cygwin's mount code. > Can I suggest that if it is a) feasible b) doable without too much added > degradation in performance/complexity to the file handling code, that > Cygwin add some limited support itself. > > I'm not talking about going back to something like the old managed > mounts, but more to its replacement function. That being the same > handling of special characters like :, |, etc that Cygwin employs. > > That is, the use of the special Unicode breakout character. It can > be used when a name collision is detected (yes, detection code required. > I don't know how costly that would be). eg. > [...] > Is the trade-off large enough to fall back on the "just use NTFS" > argument? Well, from my POV, yes. It doesn't make sense to use ExFAT for serious work anyway, it's for SD cards and stuff like that. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple