X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=Xp00CJm82P70pKlxTmqcmqJVRKNk9o5xGirR3O6p8yF JUk1jHs0koXyeW1a1w2nzXpKoFVdxltAtB/tAuZ/TL1N2fxYmd/LLMrS8UKpU8kn 0Nn9FD7RPYJk2UdfEWnAaspYCcHect92+OYksbK3UqDjCeIxMOSw+CuZUx/VnRxo = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=k7e40aNn8wOO8dEEisIJhQ396DU=; b=KtFrhI2W+4I9clPLD f4OddLg4JLO9eIhLVri9o1s5fUJO9qUjUdM2CSCWT5oOd3XSEXRa/MaqgAG3OeuD +G5wOsYlE6IGdcHMbuwAhs0EzmR+ZTTxnNZG5afPKhW3LrIOZ0WR/P2ovk9P0lpo Su+V2U964sdv/lUPaKdm0XCp/k= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Message-ID: <51CD9C39.8000907@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:49 -0400 From: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: 1.7.20: cygicons-0.dll has gone missing References: <6CF2FC1279D0844C9357664DC5A08BA20D913A AT MLBXV06 DOT nih DOT gov> <0D835E9B9CD07F40A48423F80D3B5A7021D8C894 AT USA7109MB022 DOT na DOT xerox DOT net> <51CC3936 DOT 5060302 AT gmail DOT com> <257023591 DOT 20130628141617 AT mtu-net DOT ru> In-Reply-To: <257023591.20130628141617@mtu-net.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/28/2013 6:16 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: >>>> The cygutils package was recently split into cygutils-extra and >>>> cygutils-x11. Install cygutils-extra. >>> >>> Doesn't this suggest that cygicons-0.dll should be included >>> in the base cygwin package? > >> base does not needs icons, so in IMHO no. > > That's a bit flawed line, IMO. > Default install should put user's system in a consistent working order. > Missing icons is not something I would call "consistent". What part of a default install [1] *requires* icons from cygicon-0.dll? Now, if you're talking about updating an existing cygwin installation via setup.exe [with no special package selection], then yeah -- this is a *known* breakage. But it's better than the previous *known issue* where a default "Base" install [1] would pull in python and bits of X11. THAT is what this packaging change was intended to fix, and because we did so deliberately in order to break requires: dependencies, we couldn't very well avoid the problem you see by adding those same requires: dependencies right back. Summary: READ the cygwin-announce list. Always. KNOW what you're doing when you upgrade. AND, if you didn't do that...when you see an error due to a "routine upgrade"...go back and DO read that list. [1] And by "default install" I mean "new installation of cygwin, using setup.exe, on a virgin system that has never before had cygwin installed", where NO special package selection is made. E.g. a "Base" installation. And really, missing icons doesn't break a darn thing. It just makes things look less pretty, temporarily, until you manually install the correct package. -- Chuck -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple