X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=meK+YV7qwqxQq0unlpjMCNxT7TE/DjY1VgyijWKhBSO sQPAawQ3ah2/HPSolEnl++/A6L9tbdlmsNrwb3bRMnZJfMoB5VpRN4BL9BRxwHOg C9fwTIrDF3D5698xBUCB8vAmCYpRStK/FFmeA37ft7oLTq9fAnzBjMI0pr5cuanE = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=eVYeg40JVeQGsr2r6hAII1Acr+A=; b=UYjQxQ54GkiYOUCiP PToMHq92MA2Ot5ryY9EG+EbmC34dNMriI5KvY+hPgznf4rBsxa5uWLWKSUy6dkL6 7vzXabiH3VmbaE24ldCNVh/8SSfpdudNx6UJD9c3pwqztOZNiL6Erdh5P4maU7vd ALKN4diRmCr43jI4MLylD6v2HE= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Message-ID: <51C0B08E.8080900@etr-usa.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:10:06 -0600 From: Warren Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cygwin-L Subject: Re: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Note-from-DJ: This may be spam On 6/18/2013 12:40, Алексей Павлов wrote: > > 1. The correct definition of executables belonging to Cygwin DLL. Can you give an example of what you mean here? This must be some kind of translation error, since executables never belong to DLLs. The reverse is sometimes true, but mostly not. > 2. Translating paths in arguments and environment variables to Windows > form for pure Win32 applications. I don't see how Cygwin can reliably predict when and whether to do this. That is why it provides cygpath(1). You, the user, use that tool when you know you need a translation done. > 3. In MSYS mode Cygwin need to be very portable It would indeed be nice to have a portable Cygwin. That is, one that could be run from a copied directory or USB key, without being formally installed. Such a thing would need to solve the 3PP problem, though, which is Hard (tm). > 4. Ability to change OSNAME that controlled by uname function in Cygwin DLL. Who needs this, and why? > 5. Use shorted mount point options in /etc/fstab - only win32_path and > posix_path. Why do you need this? Doesn't it conflict with your point #3? A portable Cygwin would go out of its way to avoid using /etc/fstab. I would guess that such a Cygwin variant would simply provide an unchangeable default behavior, and you'd have to be happy with it. > 6. SYMLINKS. Now Cygwin can work with native symlinks but it cannot be > used in all situations. From the other side - Win32 applications > doesn't understand Cygwin symlinks. As fallback option we need to > create copies of files and directories instead symlinks. Copy semantics are not an acceptable fallback for ln. (Or where they are, you can do your own copying.) Example: $ ln -s dir1 dir2 Cygwin decides it can't make the symlink, so it spends a lot of I/O and disk space cloning the tree. Bad enough. But then: $ vi dir2/somefile.txt (make edits, :wq) Now dir2/somefile.txt is not the same as dir1/somefile.txt. This is going to break something, I'm sure of it. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple