X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=BHhR7aBpRjXRa0aWvRg20Rn6XGyns3urdqGKQcKBOd1D9TsJkj7nV Zm/Bar2UFZ6Lr5nZbIZF7BFSVvel9u2DqMbZe6yygKbuIIQwKbqgKrdS8nWrDjGn RPw+tVOiOX8N0AN8DXQGCfSMTgurh88uJ0h1ClcgOzp3bHtGczZaYI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=YSVE6z7YXPGQ3LRBUnbDSu115lo=; b=hYHfbf2fpb4gA5aLBI33pNgGRp+6 MVaZI2Q1HHEOJGvHpe6ul6oKKWex2s1NP/3FQhxj7aHVjJMIVQVl8vogXWZU/wbF bLA2a6lRyr+M7y4hkQgZsASEL7MP7e8sdDuFV8+eul9Q5MSwf5b2Ju67jgNy5sVR V7DK6JKgj4Xc0EM= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse AT dyndns DOT com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+kVUcCrX8FPh2o5I4njAHE Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:36:44 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: UNC and POSIX paths Message-ID: <20130618143644.GC5406@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <036c01ce6b6d$0ada5090$208ef1b0$@malth.us> <03b201ce6b83$c5b62720$51227560$@malth.us> <51BF534E DOT 2030200 AT cygwin DOT com> <044001ce6bca$16c79ef0$4456dcd0$@malth.us> <20130618044230 DOT GA6062 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <048c01ce6be7$5aea3940$10beabc0$@malth.us> <20130618102632 DOT GC27405 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20130618143009 DOT GA5406 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130618143009.GA5406@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30:09AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:26:32PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>On Jun 17 22:47, gmt AT malth DOT us wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, at 21:42, Christopher Faylor thusly quipped: >>> >>> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 07:18:12PM -0700, gmt AT malth DOT us wrote: >>> >> BTW, along the same lines, I stated previously it would break >>> >> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gnulib.git;a=blob_plain;f=m4/doub >>> >> le-sl ash-root.m4. Turns out I was wrong, the m4 has a hard-coded list >>> >> of platforms. So, I have to say, I can't think of one technical or >>> >> merit-based reason this shouldn't be done, aside from the fact that >>> >> it's annoying to hear it endlessly brought up on the mailing list (a >>> >> problem which an implementation would, in fact, solve, not exacerbate). >>> > >>> > I can't quite follow the logic here but if you're saying that if we no >>> longer >>> > treated // as /, people who want to use //usr/local/bin would not >>> complain, >>> > you're right. That doesn't mean that a whole new class of complainer >>> would not >>> > show up, however. >>> > >>> > I can say with absolute certainty that there is one person who would >>> complain. >>> >>> I was imagining a less intrusive hypothetical approach. >>> >>> For example, perhaps a CYGWIN=nounc flag that would simply turn the feature >>> off, or a way to deactivate in fstab -- in short, anything reversible, and, >>> by default, preserving the existing behavior. Prune-grafting "//" to "/smb" >>> might have been a good idea had it been done at cygwin's inception, but I >>> think it's probably too late now. >> >>A mount table approach along the lines of the cygdrive prefix handling >>might not be such a bad thing, after all. Something along these lines >> >> none /mnt cygdrive binary,posix=0,user 0 0 >> none /unc uncdrive binary,posix=0 0 0 >> >>This would also fix the somewhat special feature that unc paths get the >>same default flag treatment as cygdrive paths. > >That's what I was proposing earlier in the thread. It's a SHTDI >proposal, of course. And, it nontrivially complicates path handling since we'd have to make decisions about whether to honor // or not. If we do consider this, I think we should take a step back and think about revamping path handling to allow hooks for things like /dev, /proc, /cygdrive rather than having to special case them. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple